Author Topic: Trying to find father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley ABT 1817  (Read 1491 times)

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hi again
Got Great results last time so  i try again

Well same family of sorts
I am trying to find who the father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley
yet another illegitimate child and a brother to William Earl who was illegitimate to Esther Earl  and James Longhurst
Foot note there is a James Longhurst  in the area having a lot of children to other women
Also Esther Earl Married a William Warner who is also illegitimate, his mother is Leah Warner
And her sister Milly Warner had a  illegitimate child to a James Longhurst named "{Mary Longhurst Warner"
there maybe more than one james as the numbers are too many for one guy, mind you he did end up in prison..
And lived to a grand old age of 94 and buried in Christ Church Shamley green 11 Feb 1887

but my main interest in this post is father of James Earl, and i wont be surprised if it is that guy
so thanks in advance

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466422435/facts
Baptism
13 Jul 1817 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Burial
27 Oct 1840 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
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Re: Trying to find father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley ABT 1817
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 April 19 11:39 BST (UK) »
Well if no father is on the birth or baptism it's not likely you will ever find out for sure.

How do you know James was the father of William Earl and how far apart were the boys born?
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Re: Trying to find father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley ABT 1817
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 April 19 17:09 BST (UK) »
Well if no father is on the birth or baptism it's not likely you will ever find out for sure.



How do you know James was the father of William Earl and how far apart were the boys born?


Court records for maintaining child and burden to parish,and he was in prison for to many illegitimate children,,there was 4 years difference between the two brothers

Bastardly Record
13 Jan 1824 • HO 17/44/93

James Longhurst: getting Esther Earl with child, likely to be born a bastard and chargeable to the parish. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14603696 Printed Kalendar of 119 prisoners held at Brixton, Kingston-upon Thames and Guildford

Bastardly Record
5 Oct 1816 • surrey

got a Hannah Creasey with child

Filiation order: James Longhurst of Wonersh, labourer, reputed father of a female bastard child born to Milly Warner on 27 Dec 1813, to pay £2 13s 6d towards maintenance to date to Wonersh parish, and a further 2s 6d a week whilst the child is chargeable to the parish. Martha Haynes to pay 1s a week
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