can you read this dockyard occupation??

[diplodicus]

I think this could be read as Independent: pension from the dockyards.

Independent is usually enumerated as "Independent means".

[Little Nell]

Pension records for the Royal Dockyards  do exist at the National Archives.

Is John his son?  Given that he was a blacksmith, Samuel may well have been too.

Nell

[queencorgi1]

Thank you both for these additional comments. I did not know there were pension records from the Dockyard at the NA. Always something new to learn!

[Richard A Smith]

I think this could be read as Independent: pension from the dockyards.

While a pension does imply some degree of independent means, I don't think that's what the abbreviation "Ind" in the entry is saying.  The "Ind" comes between the words "from" and "dockyard".  Possibly it means some independent dockyard, but more likely, I think, Hallmark is right in suggesting it means the India Dockyard.  I'm not aware of a dock in Hampshire with that name, though I'm no expert, but I wonder whether it refers to the East or West India Docks in London.  Do you know whether Samuel lived in London at any time?

[queencorgi1]

Not as far as I am aware. The family seem to have moved from Somerset to Portsmouth, and were then employed at the Dockyard. There is no India Dock in Hampshire as far as I know, and I think 'Ind' in this case (which was clearly first written by itself by the census taker) meant 'independent means' and the reference to the pension was then written in by way of extra explanation.

[Rosinish]

Could it be Ind(ustrial) Dockyard?

"Portsmouth has the world's oldest dry dock. In the sixteenth century, Portsmouth was England's first line of defence during the French invasion of 1545. By the early nineteenth century, the world's first mass production line was set up in Portsmouth Dockyard's Block Mills, making it the most industrialised site in the world and birthplace of the Industrial Revolution"

Annie

[Indiana.59]

Could it be Ind(ustrial) Dockyard?

"Portsmouth has the world's oldest dry dock. In the sixteenth century, Portsmouth was England's first line of defence during the French invasion of 1545. By the early nineteenth century, the world's first mass production line was set up in Portsmouth Dockyard's Block Mills, making it the most industrialised site in the world and birthplace of the Industrial Revolution"

Annie

Taking this occupation away from the docks - Ind usually means "Industrial" when found on others occupations in censuses - so I tend to agree with Rosinish here . . .

[CarolA3]

This is the 1841 census.  There was an official list of occupation abbreviations attached to the enumerators' instructions, common ones being 'lab' and 'ag lab'.

'Ind' is the official abbreviation for 'independent means' such as pensions, annuities, and inherited money.  It's what we would now call 'unearned income'.

Carol

[chempat]

Look to see how other people on the pages around his census entry are recorded - there are 'Dock Yard P', 'navy p' and there are 'Ind', his does look different, but because amended?