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Offline wrjones

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Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« on: Wednesday 08 May 19 11:56 BST (UK) »
I have had a message from a friend on Facebook asking for my help in finding out some info about her Great-Grandmother.

From all known info she was born in Cefn Mawr Denbighshire in c 1862.She was to marry a Henry Edwards in 1886.The Marriage Certificate gives her Father to be an Edward Davies(Puddler).She dies in 1924.Lifespan therefore 1862-1924.

After a search myself there is no sighting for Martha on any Census before she is married.Neither is there any possible candidates for Father Edward on any Census.

Despite Davies being an obviously common local Surname,there is no possible Birth that I can find either.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 19:25 BST (UK) »
Go back to your friend, and get the rest of the information.
Eg where they wed.
What names witness

Were they consistent in census?
Where they lived, and with whom?
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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 19:43 BST (UK) »
The Witnesses at the Marriage were a Mary June Edwards and a John Jones.The Marriage took place at Wrexham Registry Office.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 20:55 BST (UK) »
And the rest of it?
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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 21:02 BST (UK) »
Martha and/or her father are nowhere to be seen before she marries.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 21:23 BST (UK) »
Kind of confusing but take a look at Edward PLATT and family (1881 census):

5514 /52/7

and then Edward DAVIES and family (1891 census):
4613 /125/10

Are they the same family??

Maureen

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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 21:53 BST (UK) »
well, both families have daughters Charlotte and Harriett of the same age so looks a distinct possibility.
1871 Charlotte is 7 weeks old, no matching Platt birth reg but there is a Charlotte Davies march qtr 1871 Wrexham vol 11b pg 335 mmn Roberts, more than one possible for Harriet with mmn Roberts and there's a Martha dec qtr 1863 Wrexham vol 11b pg 319 mmn Roberts.

Possible parish marriage from Ruabon parish church 18 April 1863
Edward Davies 23 bach forgeman Cefn Mawr father David forgeman
Mary Roberts 23 spin Cefn Mawr father John labourer
witnesses John Davies  & Mary Ann Jones all mark except Edward.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 22:17 BST (UK) »
possible for Edward
1851 Cefn Mawr HO107/2503 folio 188 pg 73
David Davies head mar 42 labourer b. Bala, Merionethshire
Harriet wife 39
Edward son 13
John son 11
Ann dau 7
Margaret dau 3
all born Ruabon except David

Marriage 22 Sept 1834 in the parish church of Ruabon of David Davies and Harriet Platt, witnesses John Jones & Elizabeth Ritchard, all mark except John Jones.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Martha Davies Born c 1862.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 May 19 22:32 BST (UK) »
Well done.osprey!

Things seem to fit pretty well.

Maureen