Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester

[DCB]

I noticed that Soloman Outram was in the army, retired in 1836 and died in 1849. A person of that name married Martha Garner in 1836.

I wondered if John was also in the army and there is a possibility. A John Outram of St Mary's, Leicester, enlisted in Nottingham on 23 Oct 1806. Nothing to confirm that it was him but, if he died abroad, there may not be a record.

David

[ShaunJ]

There is quite a lot of source material on John's military career in this public tree https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/76873421/person/32357876272/facts

The owner has the wrong marriage for his parents though!

[Annette7]

A John Outram shown as aged 25 (bc.1785) was bur.9/7/1810 St. Philip, Barbados - could this be John b.1783 who appears to have enlisted in 1806 - could a soldier have ended up in Barbados?    If this is the John b.1783 it would explain why he is not mentioned in his fathers will when he died 1816.

Annette

[BumbleB]

Ann, W of John Artram - buried 8 November 1797 at St Mary, Leicester - aged 46.

I have assumed that W = wife.  Some other female burials have no defining titles.

Added:  not quite sure now, what do you think?

[willsy]

John's headstone for burial 1816 with wife Ann 5th ? 1798

https://billiongraves.com/grave/John-Outram/13689071

[pcjr]

Many thanks for all of your help so far, its all interesting,
1. We have two people, one named Susan and the other Jemima
2.  Susan  could be the wife of John Outram (1783) as Annette as found the death of a John Outram in 1810, which states that he was in the army enlisted in 1806, If it is the same guy, this means that Susan was left at home with a new born  as their son also called John was born in 1806,when John was christened did they both attend the event? or was he called away later on eg 1810, Why did he go to Barbados, was their a war on then? If John died in 1810 this also explains the widow part in Susannah death notice in 1814 ,age 29, was she from St Margaret's parish, which could explain her own burial their.    I guess son John would have been bought by grandparents.
3. John Outram   marriage is 1800,  widow  50  which makes  his birth around 1750.
4, Jemima Rider  wid 40 which makes her birth around 1760. I also see that she was from All Saints.

Thinking about it ,is their any chance of looking for Susan   ?  1785 from St Margaret's.  or even her marriage to John Outram, one would think that she would have got married in her own parish.

Just some ideas,
pcjr
New Zealand

[ShaunJ]

I'd be inclined to discount the Barbados death. There are Outrams in Barbados from the mid-17th century, possibly earlier. 

[BumbleB]

Strange about that headstone - death for Ann said to be 5 November 1798 aged 47.  There are no burial entries at St Mary, Leicester around that date for any Ann.

The image from the parish records which I posted -

Burial:  8 November 1797 - Ann aged 46.

Which is correct 

[DCB]

The headstone is also here - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150949429/john-outram

It looks as though the death was 5th November, which would correlate with the burial in 1797. The inscription was probably added when John's stone was carved and so the year could be a mistake.

David