John Gray born around 1880 in Scotland

[mckha489]

WW2 draft gives John’s dob as 8 Dec 1890, Glasgow.

[Rosinish]

From Reply #19 from Mckha,

I'd look 1st at the census' of 1891/1901 to see if they fit the Kinning marriage based on locations so far found as Slammanan is further away.

Annie

[mckha489]

Agnes arrived NY for PA 27 Oct  1908
Address of close friend or relative in Scotland , Mrs Russell, 66 Back Street, Renton

Going to Uncle, George Kerr, 131 Allegheny Ave , Philadelphia  (he paid her fare)
She’s 5ft 2in, fresh complexion, fair hair, blue eyes

[mckha489]

At Johns marriage he had to have the consent of his Guardian, John Thomson.

[Rosinish]

Distance between Back Street & Burnside Street where the Russells showed in 1901 is 7 mins drive...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nsx/

Follow the dark blue lines which show both

I would have fitted the description of Agnes to a 'T' in my younger days 


Annie

[mckha489]

Possible 1891 for John

John Gray
Age:   3 Mo
Estimated birth year:   abt 1891
Relationship:   Son
Father's name:   William Gray
Mother's name:   Mary Gray
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Govan, Lanarkshire
Registration Number:   646/2
Registration district:   Govan
Civil Parish:   Govan
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   2 Ingram St
ED:   29
Household schedule number:   125
Line:   22
Roll:   CSSCT1891_303

[mckha489]

Distance between Back Street & Burnside Street where the Russells showed in 1901 is 7 mins drive...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nsx/

Follow the dark blue lines which show both

I would have fitted the description of Agnes to a 'T' in my younger days 


Annie

I think of all the things Google has done, Google Maps/satellite/street view has to be the best!

[mckha489]

William in the possible 1891 is a joiner, so this might be him in 1901, boarding 

Name:   William Gray
Age:   40
Estimated birth year:   abt 1861
Relationship:   Boarder
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Lanark
Registration Number:   644/9
Registration district:   Kelvin
Civil Parish:   Glasgow Kelvinside
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   158 Raeberry St
Occupation:   Joiner
ED:   78
Household schedule number:   135
Line:   5
Roll:   CSSCT1901_301

[mckha489]

And perhaps this is John with his mother and younger siblings.  Only thing is head of house is Marys mother Agnes MARSHALL not ROBERTSON. However birth places of Mary and John fit. Agnes could be on a second marriage.

Name:   John Gray
Age:   10
Estimated birth year:   abt 1891
Relationship:   Grandson
Mother's name:   Mary Gray
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Govan, Renfrewshire
Registration Number:   629
Registration district:   Carluke
Civil Parish:   Carluke
Town:   Carluke
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   Clydesdale Hotel High Street. Ok, so this links in with Norman’s post.
Occupation:   Scholar
ED:   3
Household schedule number:   216
Line:   15
Roll:   CSSCT1901_256


Agnes Marshall   67
Mary Gray   40
John Gray   10
James Gray   8
William Gray   6
Agnes Gray   3
Agnes White   21

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