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Offline kristof

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Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« on: Wednesday 22 May 19 06:31 BST (UK) »
As we well know, doctors seem to be trained in the art of writing in a script which is designed to be unintelligible. I wonder if anyone could assist in deciphering the 'scrawl' within these two excerpts from some medical notes from 1940? I can read some of it but am lacking certain key words to make sense of the entire text. It is written in a somewhat 'shorthand' manner, without complete sentences.
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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 06:51 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you could type up what you can read

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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 08:20 BST (UK) »
My eyes are too tired to work out more words, but here is a few scraps from Excerpt 1 to get you started:

Well orientated. Previously a ????
??? but wandering around the ????.
?????? it  He has ?? ??????????
delusion chiefly about forgery.  He is
also talking about the Supreme Being
and is evidently (rely?) ???? her ??sent.
He gives a good account of her where ????
since last being here a at (Sandy? Landy?)
Gill of ??. He is ???? or ????
???delusions of persecution against
the police.  He always had these. Good
????. Eating and sleeping well.  He was
????ing around the ???????? lately
and described in the Prison as "the bearded
man".

Edit: Oops... I should have used XX for the unknown instead of question marks.  Well, enjoy all the smiley faces!

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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 08:31 BST (UK) »
Excerpt 2  (The author does not like punctuation!)

Can answer questions carry
on conversation  Takes an
interest in his surrounding
orientation time - place
Good memory.  Gives a
full account of where
he has been XXXX
XXX is auditory hallucination
states that his father
forged document to XXXXX
XXXX him worked with
police serbeant state
that police has a
down on him
Eating well sleeping
well. Working in ward
gang.


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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 09:31 BST (UK) »
A few suggestions to bbart 1


Well orientated. Previously a ????
??? but wandering around the bush roughing it  He has ?? ??????????
delusion chiefly about forgery.  He is
also talking about the Supreme Being
and is evidently (rely?) ???? her ??sent.
He gives a good account of her where ????
since last being here at Sandy Gallop Inst???. Could this be Sandy Gallop Asylum?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipswich_Mental_Hospital
He is ???? or ????
???delusions of persecution against
the police.  He always had these. Good
????. Eating and sleeping well.  He was
swanning around the North Coast lately
and described in the Press as "the bearded
man".



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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 10:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you Kay99 and bbart! Excellent.
So far I think excerpt 2  reads as follows:

Well orientated. Previously a ? ? but wandering around the bush roughing it  He has ?? ?????????? delusion chiefly about forgery.  He is also talking about the Supreme Being and is evidently (rely?) ???? her ??sent. He gives a good account of her where ???? since last being here at Sandy Gallop Inst. He is ???? or ???? ??? delusions of persecution against the police.  He always had these. Good ????. Eating and sleeping well.  He was swanning (moving?) around the North Coast lately and described in the Press as "the bearded man".

Yes Kay99, that would be Sandy Gallop asylum, well deciphered - I knew he had spent time there but was unable to recognise the name in the scrawl.

As for excerpt 1: I think bbart mostly has it though I wish I could figure out those few gaps, particularly  what it says about the 'forged document':

"Can answer questions carry on conversation  Takes an interest in his surrounding orientation time - place Good memory.  Gives a full account of where he has been XXXX XXX is auditory hallucination
states that his father forged document to XXXXX XXXX him worked with police sergeant state that police has a down on him Eating well sleeping well. Working in ward gang."



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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 11:02 BST (UK) »
Excerpt 1 few more suggestions

Has  many  structured delusions

Has good account of his whereabouts since last being here at Sandy Gallop M H (Mental Hospital) He is giving no trouble Has delusions of persecution against the police
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
Well spotted, thank you!
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Re: Decipher some doctor's hieroglyphics
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 May 19 11:11 BST (UK) »
Second excerpt

Has good account of where he has been XXX Denies auditory hallucinations

Possibly, father forged documents to house 
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge