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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #36 on: Monday 27 May 19 15:21 BST (UK) »
Don’t know about spinner. It’s really not clear on the image which is on Ancestry.

Many thanks, 'skinner' - ?
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #37 on: Monday 27 May 19 15:29 BST (UK) »
If your George Hunt was still serving with the army in 1861, he will be one of these:

754   Trooper   1st Dragoons
1459   Trooper   7th Hussars
582   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards
6393   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards

537   Private   29th Foot
3661   Private   30th Foot
2037   Drummer / Fifer   45th Foot Depot
558   Private   62nd Foot Depot
2369/891/1653   Private   107th Foot
790   Gunner   3rd Brigade R.A.
343   Corporal   5th Brigade R.A.
903   Gunner   5th Brigade R.A.
1043   Gunner   Coast Brigade R.A.

471   Trooper   7th Dragoon Guards
4372   Gunner   Horse Brigade R.A.

Cross referencing this list with "Stations of the British Army" for January 1859 (Louisa born 9 months later) allows us to eliminate those soldiers whose units were overseas or otherwise distant from London at the time of the liaison.
This leaves us with the two soldiers in the 2nd Coldstream Guards, and the artillerymen, which I have highlighted in bold.

Thanks, so you would suggest the previous post 'shoeing-smith' was overseas at the time of the signing of the marriage certificate?

How would I access these records please, is there limited library access, such as with FindMyPast census transcriptions, for example?
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #38 on: Monday 27 May 19 16:06 BST (UK) »
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Thanks, so you would suggest the previous post 'shoeing-smith' was overseas at the time of the signing of the marriage certificate?

He would only have been 3 years old when Louisa Mary was born. He's in the 1881 census at Regents Park Barracks, aged 25.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #39 on: Monday 27 May 19 16:12 BST (UK) »
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How would I access these records please, is there limited library access, such as with FindMyPast census transcriptions, for example?

The "Worldwide Army Indexes" are compiled from muster books and paylists and are searchable on FindMyPast and The Genealogist. "Stations of the British Army " were published monthly in 19th century newspapers.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #40 on: Friday 31 May 19 01:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks.

Am lost. When I go to the FindMyPast British Army, Worldwide Index I just get endless lists of thousands of George Hunts without regiment details or service numbers. How do I refine my search to the George Hunt details you kindly found please?

754   Trooper   1st Dragoons
1459   Trooper   7th Hussars
582   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards
6393   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards

537   Private   29th Foot
3661   Private   30th Foot
2037   Drummer / Fifer   45th Foot Depot
558   Private   62nd Foot Depot
2369/891/1653   Private   107th Foot
790   Gunner   3rd Brigade R.A.
343   Corporal   5th Brigade R.A.
903   Gunner   5th Brigade R.A.
1043   Gunner   Coast Brigade R.A.

471   Trooper   7th Dragoon Guards
4372   Gunner   Horse Brigade R.A.

For example, when I search Military, armed forces & conflict at FindMyPast, inserting the known record for a Private, Soldier No.582, Regiment: 2nd Coldstream Guards, Britain, England - there can be only one person for this number, it should tell me George Hunt. Instead I get "No Result Found"

Perplexed.

Please advise.

Thank you.
Lee, Fountain, Stevens, Kemp

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #41 on: Friday 31 May 19 09:17 BST (UK) »
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Am lost. When I go to the FindMyPast British Army, Worldwide Index I just get endless lists of thousands of George Hunts without regiment details or service numbers. How do I refine my search to the George Hunt details you kindly found please?

I don't know what you are doing to get "thousands" of hits. If you have a sub and are logged in, and search the 1861 Worldwide Army Index for George Hunt, you should get just 16 hits, one of which (3661) is duplicated.

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For example, when I search Military, armed forces & conflict at FindMyPast, inserting the known record for a Private, Soldier No.582, Regiment: 2nd Coldstream Guards, Britain, England - there can be only one person for this number, it should tell me George Hunt. Instead I get "No Result Found"

You are putting in too much information. Never use the "regiment" field in FindMyPast. If you just put in the name Hunt, Soldier Number 582, you will get 3 hits, one of which is his service record. That will tell you that he was in the Oxford Militia until February 1860 so he is unlikely to be the man you seek.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #42 on: Friday 31 May 19 13:15 BST (UK) »
Many thanks,

On Monday 27 May I asked was there UK library access for the searchable Worldwide Army Indexes, & I have yet to receive a response.

Currently the public library is my access to FindMyPast on a limited membership basis - free subscription.

Please advise.

Attached is the current result, following the instructions you kindly post.

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #43 on: Friday 31 May 19 13:51 BST (UK) »
Update.

Subsequent FindMyPast search successful :)

Posting for the benefit of others.

Worldwide Army Index 1861 > HUNT (name) > search > 3,000,000 results > adv search > select 'Military Armed' search > insert soldier no.582 > 3 results.

With thanks.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #44 on: Friday 31 May 19 16:20 BST (UK) »
George HUNT
Pension Admission or Examination Age:   42
Discharge Age:   42
Birth Year:   abt 1838
Birth Place:   Bicester, Oxford
Pension Admission or Examination Date:   2 Mar 1880
Discharge Date:   2 Mar 1880
Regiment:   Coldm Guards
Rank:   Corporal
Regimental Number:   582
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a possible marriage & census for above George

1861 RG 9; Piece: 435; Folio: 11; Page: 17
Foot Guards Detachment, North Camp Aldershot
George HUNT Private age 23 Bicester Oxford occ Soldier

George Henry HUNT f/a Soldier Coldstream Guards, Wellington Barrack Westminster
father John, Wheelwright
married Frances Julia YORK on 31st May 1863 at St Paul Southwark

1871 RG10; Piece: 129; Folio: 98; Page: 42
George HUNT age 33 born Bister Oxford gives his occ Corpl. C Guards
Frances wife 29, George 3, John 8 mths

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George HUNT
Pension Admission or Examination Age:   34
Birth Year:   abt 1836
Birth Place:   Newington, Southwask, Surrey
Pension Admission or Examination Date:   9 Aug 1870
Regiment:   Royal Artillery 3rd Bde.
Rank:   G.
Regimental Number:   790

George HUNT
Discharge Date:   8 Jul 1871
Regiment:   Coldstream Regiment of Guards
Rank:   Private
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