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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 26 May 19 16:30 BST (UK) »
Louisa's marriage mentions father as George HUNT

Louisa Mary POWELL age 23 father George HUNT occ Soldier         
Marriage 25 Mar 1883 Christ Church, Hampstead, Camden
Spouse:   John INNELL 23 occ barman father John, waiter

YES! That's the right family :)
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 26 May 19 16:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for clarifying  the family connections.

Although there was no marriage between George HUNT and Louisa POWELL,  were they know to have lived together at any time as in a state of marriage?  Just wondering, where George HUNT's name was recorded as the father of Louisa Mary POWELL - was it on her 1859 Birth Certificate?

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AMBLY

Yes, I have a copy of the birth certificate of Louisa Powell 1859, that was the shock discovery decades ago that the HUNT surname features in the family, no-one knew this. I do not know what the relationship was, casual or long-term? Louisa Powell's family appears to be associated with the laundries at Hampstead at this time. Louisa Powell's father was an 'ostler' a horse-keeper, stables man at Hampstead, Thomas Powell born 1798. It took me about 10 years or longer to find his home county which was Surrey, born in Southwark.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 26 May 19 16:46 BST (UK) »

...the son George Richard HUNT is not in the family home in 1861 but is back there - unmarried - in 1871 (which ties in with him being about to marry Emily Harriett Austin).

So finding him in 1861 (was he in the Army for a short stint from about 1858, then out before 1871?) and 1881 (or was he in the Army at this time?).

His middle name, if he was in the Army and if he used the middle name, might be of use.

Thanks AMBLY, this may well help!

It also suggests there may have been a Richard in the family somewhere, giving George his middle name?
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 26 May 19 16:47 BST (UK) »
Not that this helps finding George Hunt soldier/army pensioner but did Louisa Mary Powell
marry a second time - if so, was her father also named as George Hunt on this marriage cert.
and what was his occupation?
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 May 19 16:55 BST (UK) »

The 'Mary' in my grandmother's name is unexplained, I can't see any related Powell with this name at this time.  Born 1859,

Louisa Powell's parents were Thomas POWELL [b.1798] and Charlotte WILLOUGHBY [bc.1800], perhaps the Mary name comes from this part of the family line?

She could have been given the middle name 'MARY' after Mary Elizabeth TOOMES who appears to be the sister of Louisa Powell born c1842

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This is excellent, thank you! - I came across the TOOMES (means Tom's [child]) reference some while ago, but it's gone to the back of my mind. Look at the horse references also, Thomas Powell [b.1798] was a horse-keeper :)
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 26 May 19 17:15 BST (UK) »
Not that this helps finding George Hunt soldier/army pensioner but did Louisa Mary Powell
marry a second time - if so, was her father also named as George Hunt on this marriage cert.
and what was his occupation?

Louisa Powell [bc.1841] married a George BENWELL in 1861, that's all I know at the moment.

Louisa Mary Powell [b.1859] married John INNELL in 1883, who was related to the Innell hansom cab-varnishing family of Victorian London. I have no record of Louisa Mary Powell marrying a second time.
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 May 19 17:45 BST (UK) »

[Louisa Mary Powell] could have been given the middle name 'MARY' after Mary Elizabeth TOOMES who appears to be the sister of Louisa Powell born c1842


There are several variants of the Toomes surname including THOMAS, TOMS, TIMMS, TOOMEY, THAMES, TOON, TOOMBS, TOWNES, TOMES and THOMS.

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/TOOMES

Found this reference to a Southwark TOOMEY born in Warwickshire. Thomas Powell the father of Louisa Powell was born in Southwark - although there is no direct relation here.

"John Toomey[,] Sarah [spouse], Bc 1835 Worcestershire, England Head Southwark St George Martyr, London"

 http://romanyconnections.wikifoundry.com/page/1881+Census+Hawkers+born+Worcestershire%3A
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 26 May 19 17:48 BST (UK) »
Louisa's marriage mentions father as George HUNT

Louisa Mary POWELL age 23 father George HUNT occ Soldier         
Marriage 25 Mar 1883 Christ Church, Hampstead, Camden
Spouse:   John INNELL 23 occ barman father John, waiter

YES! That's the right family :)

This is the reason I queried a second marriage for Louisa Mary Powell/Innell

Dec 1915
Louisa M INNELL
Name on same page
John PENSOTTI
   
Louisa Mary PENSOTTI      Birth year   1860
Age at death   72y   
Burial date   20 Jan 1932
Burial place   Morden Parish, Surrey County, England
Street address   11 Kersley Street
Residence   Battersea Place   Morden Parish County   Surrey

London Electoral register has John & Louisa Mary PENSOTTI  living at 11 Kersley Street Battersea from 1918 also at this address in 1929/1930 is  Ethel Adelaide INELL (dau of John Inell & Louisa)

Her  bpt along with sister Louisa

Ethel Adelaide & Louisa Mary INNELL were both baptised
25 Nov 1883 Hampstead Christ Church Camden,
Father John, waiter Mother Louisa Mary

1891 Piece 173 Folio 176
John INELL 30
Louisa 30 Hampstead
Ethel 9 Hampstead
Louisa 6
John  1
Alice 7 wks

Not found Ethel to confirm mmn

INNELL, LOUISA  MARY  mmn   POWELL 
1883  D Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 354

NNELL, ADA  MINNIE  mmn   POWELL  - Ada died age 4
1886  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 391

INELL, JOHN  EDWARD  mmn   POWELL 
1889  J Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 411
 
INNELL, ALICE  ELIZABETH  mmn   POWELL
1891  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 452
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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 26 May 19 17:59 BST (UK) »

Louisa Powell [bc.1841] married a George BENWELL in 1861, that's all I know at the moment.


The witnesses to this 1861 marriage were John Edward & Mary Elizabeth TOOMES

The possible  2nd marriage I was referring to was her daughter Louisa Mary Powell
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