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Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« on: Friday 24 May 19 21:46 BST (UK) »
For 20 odd years now I've been trying to nail my crooked 3x great grandmother. The story is fantastic but far too lengthy to explain. She's had that many aliases I bet she didn't know what her own name was in the end. I believe her true name to be ANASTASIA HUGGARD. according to cork police of the time she had been arrested for perjury and fraud on numerous occasions.

What I think I know....  she was born c.1832/33  in limerick.
I have 2 dates for a marriage, I know not why.
8 January 1851 to Timothy Brassill. Father given as Thomas John Haggard.
Or... 21st August 1853 in Newry , Dromore Ireland to Timothy Brazil.

Apparently they had a son.. Henry Brazil baptised in Dromore.19th may 1853
According to all the newspaper reports her father died when she was 5 or 6 in oilgate, wexford of cholera, he was a mason of some kind, and her mother remarried a man called Thomas Walsh.

The only one who isn't lying to me is Timothy, I believe him to be the son of Thomas Brazil and Jane young , baptised 24th February 1822 Newport Tipperary.

My questions,
Can anyone find me Anastasia? Or  Her parents.?
Before anyone asks me for a paper trail. For the last 25 years she was called Louisa Jane Shaw, born in 1833 from Alton Staffordshire..  however after the newspaper trail I find out she was the biggest con women in the 1850's called Alice Grey/ alias Anastasia Carter, alias Anastasia Haggard.  Yes I know it's a story to die for but its getting sticky.

Can anyone also tell me what happened to Timothy?. . Wolverhampton press stated he was in the army?
What happened to little Henry?

I have the court cases in the hundreds for Staffordshire, but need to find out about her early life in Ireland. Apparently she used the name Armstrong in Dublin 1849

I know you all love a really juicy problem, so I thought I'd try.

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 May 19 22:26 BST (UK) »
Timothy was supposedly in the 68th regiment, not sure if that helps to find out what happened to him.
Also attaching a small part of a article that might help, re the letter from her mother read out in court. [Im aware you have already seen this article just posting it with the hope it might help other members]

The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England),
Saturday, November 10, 1855

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 May 19 22:56 BST (UK) »
I cant find any mention of son Henry ??? Most of the newspaper articles mention a husband and alias names etc but nothing on a child.

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:11 BST (UK) »
A Timothy BRASSELL of the 68th foot is in the list of unclaimed pensions for 1883 Tralee

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO22/225/00137&parentid=GBM/WO22/225/00137/0318923


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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:19 BST (UK) »

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:26 BST (UK) »

The only one who isn't lying to me is Timothy, I believe him to be the son of Thomas Brazil and Jane young , baptised 24th February 1822 Newport Tipperary.


Ireland Select Marriages (Ancestry) shows Timothy’s father as Robert in 1851

The marriage details are not online at Irish Genealogy but you could send for a copy
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nuc/
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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:28 BST (UK) »
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f0807%2f069%2f002&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f807%2f663095

Record of Timothy BRASSALL of the 68th foot but he was born c 1811.

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:45 BST (UK) »
Might be worth checking further given names and possible age:

a Henry Brasel/Brassill, son of a Timothy (a farmer), married at Hannah Thornton  in Listowel, County Kerry in 1875.

Or, given the Limerick connection:

First name(s)   Henry
Last name   Brassil
Year   1882
Role   Heir Or Executor
Entry type   Will
Name of deceased   Timothy Brassil
Address   -
Country   Ireland
Registry place   Limerick

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Re: Despicable ancestor and a 25 year old mystery help.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 May 19 23:55 BST (UK) »
Here is the death of Timothy Brassill - transcribed as 92yrs in 1882 but could well be 72 yrs making his birth c 1810.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06398/4837198.pdf
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