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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #108 on: Sunday 01 September 19 18:53 BST (UK) »



Query concerning one, Nicholas Stewart, whose name is inscribed on a slab in the church of Ballintoy, County Antrim. Notes by G. S.

Citation:    Ulster journal of archaeology , Ser. 1, Vol. V, pp. 350-1, 1857; Vol. VI, pp. 106-7, 1858
At the NLI:
Call number: Ir 794105 u 1

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« Reply #109 on: Sunday 01 September 19 18:54 BST (UK) »


Pedigree of Stewart of Ballintoy and Ballinlough, of Artimacormick and Clare Park, Ballycastle and Gilgorm, Ballymena and Drumnagassen and of Eason all in Co. Antrim, c. 1600 -- 1873.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.180, pp.2-9

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #110 on: Sunday 01 September 19 18:57 BST (UK) »



Pedigree of Stewart of Ballytoye and Ballydivity, Co. Antrim, c.1750 -- 1843

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.174, p.104


If it were me I'd email the NLI  enquiring about the cost of getting a copy of this...
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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #111 on: Sunday 01 September 19 19:09 BST (UK) »



Names of ye traitors in ye Castle of Dublin at ye first rebellion, Oct. 26, 1641.
Collection:    Stewart Mss.
Format:    Manuscript
Published:    1885

NLI ref...   MS_UR_049592


Papers of Capt. Stewart of Alltyrodin, Llandyssil, including papers of the Moore family, containing a number of items of Irish interest, 1641-1739. (Hist. Mss. Comm. Rep. 10, App. 4, 1885). Some of the papers are now in Liverpool Public Library, some in Liverpool University and some were sold.


The cottage  Alltyrodin that he survived in!

John Lloyd, died unmarried and devised the estates to a female cousin, Anne Stewart,....

https://houseandheritage.org/2018/07/01/alltyrodyn/




 
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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #112 on: Sunday 01 September 19 19:48 BST (UK) »



Names of ye traitors in ye Castle of Dublin at ye first rebellion, Oct. 26, 1641.
Collection:    Stewart Mss.
Format:    Manuscript
Published:    1885

NLI ref...   MS_UR_049592


Papers of Capt. Stewart of Alltyrodin, Llandyssil, including papers of the Moore family, containing a number of items of Irish interest, 1641-1739. (Hist. Mss. Comm. Rep. 10, App. 4, 1885). Some of the papers are now in Liverpool Public Library, some in Liverpool University and some were sold.


https://archive.org/details/manuscriptsofear00grea/page/n9
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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #113 on: Sunday 01 September 19 21:58 BST (UK) »
It's been really difficult to find good sources for this but apparently James I gave land to his cousin who was an ambassador in Turin. This Stewart was on his way to Ireland from Turin when his ship went down. Later, his grandson or descendant of some sort, who is supposed to be Brigadier-general William Stuart, decided to take that land back.

It's been very confusing trying to figure it all out since so many people have different information.


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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #114 on: Sunday 01 September 19 22:11 BST (UK) »

Ninian
:  Denization was 18 Jan  1611,,,, https://archive.org/details/lettersofdenizat01shaw/page/320

.son of James S of Bute.

Siblings:  David
              Jane (married Alex Magee)
              Christiann (married Brice Dunlop)

Children:
1 Arch (married Martha Dobbin) children a dau married George Vesey, Hollymount, a dau married             Richard DOBBS, Rev Archibald S md dau of John Vesey, Jane S,  and Alex S that married Jamaica Ann S
           
2  Ninian (married Jane McCullogh)  12 children
           
3  Catherine (married John Steward of Red Bay)

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Alex S that married Jamaica Ann S had

Alec, md Cathann Hill  children Jane, Sophia
Ann, md Conway Richard Dobbs, children Alex, Richard, Randall
Rose md Edward Brice,  son Ed

Hi Hallmark,

Thanks for the link to the denization book – I hadn’t come across it before.

Where did you get the other bits of info from?  I’ve heard of the marriage to Martha Dobbs before, but there are other suggestions – Isabel Echlin (daughter of bishop Robert Echlin) and/or a Miss Ward of Co Down.

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #115 on: Sunday 01 September 19 23:00 BST (UK) »


Capt Poyntz Stewart  married Magdalene Gayer...her mother was Agnes Echlin who married Rev Echlin son of Sir Henry Echlin whose wives were Moores.  1st wife Jane Moore sister of Earl of Drogheda, 2nd wife Mary dau of Brabazon Moore, she was g/daughter of Charles 2nd Viscount Drogheda...


BUT the Moores were one of these families who changed their Surname to inherit from a Will! Grrr...

I have them from a post made here years ago if I can find it again!


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« Reply #116 on: Monday 02 September 19 18:56 BST (UK) »


Jane’s father Alexander Stewart inherited the Acton estate from his paternal grandmother Sarah Poyntz, daughter of Sir Toby Poyntz.  As far as I can make out this Stewart line goes back to Ninian Stewart who came over to Ballintoy from the Isle of Bute in about 1600.

 

I now have  Pedigree of Stewart of Ballintoy and Ballinlough, of Artimacormick and Clare Park, Ballycastle and Gilgorm, Ballymena and Drumnagassen and of Eason all in Co. Antrim, c. 1600 -- 1873.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.180, pp.2-9

which is basically a report done by Dobbs and only names those involved with some Court Case!!



Jane’s father Archibald Stewart bought the Acton estate for £2000 from his paternal grandmother Sarah Stewart (nee Poyntz) who married Col Charles Stewart  and/or her Sister Christian Hall (nee Poyntz) who was married to Roger Hall....their daughter married Col Charles Stewart son of Alex Stewart and Isabella Stewart  (nee Stewart dau of John Stewart Balnakillie)

He bought Christian Hall's half anyway.

The Stewart line only goes from Ninian* to his 1st son Archibald who married a Ward of the Castleward Family and 3rd son Ninian who married Jane McCullough (whose 2nd dau married Thomas Stewart of Esson)


So, basically it only covers those involved in the "Hutchinson Bequest"!!

 
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