James Stuart CB of Gracehill

[Gilby]

The reference that you would find invaluable is. Three hundred years in Innishowen by Amy Young.
She was a Stuart before her marriage and has written an extensive and invaluable history which documents much of the family history.
You might be able to get it from a library but it is rare. However, I note a copy for sale as below.
http://www.deburcararebooks.com/three-hundred-years-in-innishowen-by-young-amy-isabel-e75/

Hi All,

I’ve now got a copy of Amy Young’s book which is EPIC!  Well worth the expense.

It has 10 pages (+ family tree) on the Stuarts of Ballyhivistock.  Let me know if you need me to look something up.

Gilby

[Benody1921]

Thanks Gilby! That would be great.

Does it mention anything about who Irwin Stuart's father and grandfather were?

[Gilby]

Hi Benody,

She quotes the manuscript of Charles George Stuart (are you familiar with this?) and then points out that “proofs of the assertions made in the first part of it are, so far, not forthcoming”. 

She mentions several William Stewarts involved in King William’s army, “but further investigation would appear to exclude them on one account or another.”  Therefore there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of who Irwin Stuart’s grandfather was.

The father of Irwin Stewart was neither James nor Alexander, but Henry, and is so given in another “tree” compiled by the late Lieut. Irwin, and continued by his cousin Henry Irwin.  Irwin Stewart, in his entry to Trinity College, Dublin, gives the name of his father as Henry.

A will of a Sarah Ormsby, dated 17--, mentions her grand-dau. Jane Stuart, and one of the witnesses of the will is “Hen: Stuart.” …

Gilby

[hallmark]

 There are also other Macaulay marriages that I would like more information on besides the above mentioned Captain Robert Stewart's.  For example, according to Eustace's Abstract of Wills, George Stewart of Red Bay, gent. who had died sometime between 1730 and 1737 was married in 1712 to Sheely McAulay.  She and George had issue one son, Francis Stewart.  The family of George Stewart is not mentioned in the Hutchinson Bequest.

 

Might be  other details in Marriage Agreement of 1712...

[hallmark]

Sorry for coming in so late (thanks Linde but Hallmark I had a few questions.
  You said what you found at the National Library in Dublin was the "report done by Dobbs". The Dobbs Report (reprint 2019 by Peter Hutchinson) is a 103 page book which currently includes 3,613 people in a Gedcom. 9 pages of material can not be the report.
  However, the actual "Report" also does not include any of the information you showed on the one page (Roger Hall married Christian Poyntz). The report has no dates, few locations and fewer titles which makes the modern genealogy difficult. It appears to me you may have found some of Dobbs' notes on his work. Since no one seems to know where those notes are located, you may have an important segment at the National Library. Is this possible?

It possibly is.... in order for him to set out Whom is related to Whom, Marriages, Children etc...who the children Married, Deaths.

In order to compile his report he wouldn't have kept all 3,613 people names/dates/lineages in his head

[hallmark]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-S3XS-B?i=129&cat=185720  possibly same Smiths on Poyntz pedigree

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[Benody1921]

Hi Benody,

She quotes the manuscript of Charles George Stuart (are you familiar with this?) and then points out that “proofs of the assertions made in the first part of it are, so far, not forthcoming”. 

She mentions several William Stewarts involved in King William’s army, “but further investigation would appear to exclude them on one account or another.”  Therefore there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of who Irwin Stuart’s grandfather was.

The father of Irwin Stewart was neither James nor Alexander, but Henry, and is so given in another “tree” compiled by the late Lieut. Irwin, and continued by his cousin Henry Irwin.  Irwin Stewart, in his entry to Trinity College, Dublin, gives the name of his father as Henry.

A will of a Sarah Ormsby, dated 17--, mentions her grand-dau. Jane Stuart, and one of the witnesses of the will is “Hen: Stuart.” …

Gilby

Thanks so much Gilby. So Henry was his father. Thanks for clarifying that. I suppose there's no way of finding out Henry's father's name now. I've tried to make the connection between Irwin Stuart's father and Brigadier-General William Steuart. The dates don't like up for them to have been father and son.

[hallmark]

Pity there is no date...

A will of a Sarah Ormsby, dated 17--, mentions her grand-dau. Jane Stuart, and one of the witnesses of the will is “Hen: Stuart.” …

[hallmark]

Hi Benody,

She quotes the manuscript of Charles George Stuart (are you familiar with this?) and then points out that “proofs of the assertions made in the first part of it are, so far, not forthcoming”. 

She mentions several William Stewarts involved in King William’s army, “but further investigation would appear to exclude them on one account or another.”  Therefore there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of who Irwin Stuart’s grandfather was.

The father of Irwin Stewart was neither James nor Alexander, but Henry, and is so given in another “tree” compiled by the late Lieut. Irwin, and continued by his cousin Henry Irwin.  Irwin Stewart, in his entry to Trinity College, Dublin, gives the name of his father as Henry.

A will of a Sarah Ormsby, dated 17--, mentions her grand-dau. Jane Stuart, and one of the witnesses of the will is “Hen: Stuart.” …

Gilby

Thanks so much Gilby. So Henry was his father. Thanks for clarifying that. I suppose there's no way of finding out Henry's father's name now. I've tried to make the connection between Irwin Stuart's father and Brigadier-General William Steuart. The dates don't like up for them to have been father and son.

Not sure why the really important bit  Dunaman, Limerick has been omitted!! Crazy!!!!

A register of students, graduates professors & provosts of Trinity College, Univ. of Dublin yrs: 1593-1846

Irwin Stuart     1728    20 Henry Generosus Dunaman, Limerick

 

Absolutely ridiculous!!