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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #162 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:11 BST (UK) »
Yes that seems to be the general consensus. Irwin was a Reverend of some sort. They seemed to have several children. One of them being my 4th great-grandfather, James Stuart, who built Gracehill House in Derrykeighan for his wife Grace Lynd.

It's too bad Irish records are so difficult to work with.
Stuart (India, Antrim, Armagh)
Whiting (Bedfordshire)
Dunn/Taylor (Worcestershire)
Pearson (Worcestershire)
Hill/Rhodes (Worcestershire)
Gough (Warwickshire)
Perry (Devon, Worcestershire)
Maynard (Essex, Yorkshire)
Jennings (Devon)
Coldicott (Warwickshire, Gloucestershire)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:23 BST (UK) »
According to Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Sarah Ormsby was the grandmother of Jane Irwin who married Henry Stewart/Stuart.  I just had a look for her will too, but drew a blank.

The above book does not name Christopher’s wife, so I don’t know if she was called Sarah too.

Which wealthy Dobbs are you referring to Hallmark?

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #164 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:29 BST (UK) »
According to Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Sarah Ormsby was the grandmother of Jane Irwin who married Henry Stewart/Stuart.  I just had a look for her will too, but drew a blank.

The above book does not name Christopher’s wife, so I don’t know if she was called Sarah too.

Which wealthy Dobbs are you referring to Hallmark?


The wealthy Dobbs who left the bequest...

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #165 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
Attached is Betham’s note of the marriage licence for Irwin Stewart* and Elizabeth MacDaniel.  This can be viewed on Findmypast (searchable), or for free on familysearch (not so easy to search).

*According to Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Irwin and his son Charles McDaniel always signed their name “Stewart” – it seems that later generations changed it to “Stuart”.

Here is an extract from the will of James “Fatty” Stewart, the uncle of Elizabeth McDaniel (also from Betham):

Captain James Stewart
5 Feb 1736 --- pr 21 Nov 1737
Nieces Margt Young alias McDaniel
Niece Susanna Sumpton als McDaniel
Niece Elizabeth Stewart alias McDaniel
Nice Sara MacDonniel
Sister Jane McDanniel
Godson Alexander Stewart of Ballylough
Nephew Charles Mac Daniel



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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:32 BST (UK) »
Yes that seems to be the general consensus. Irwin was a Reverend of some sort. They seemed to have several children. One of them being my 4th great-grandfather, James Stuart, who built Gracehill House in Derrykeighan for his wife Grace Lynd.

It's too bad Irish records are so difficult to work with.


They can be with no dates for anyone...

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #167 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:43 BST (UK) »
Which wealthy Dobbs are you referring to Hallmark?
The wealthy Dobbs who left the bequest...

Oh!  It wasn't Dobbs who left the bequest, it was Archibald Hutchinson.  He left a load of money to his "poor and necessitous relations":
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1715-1754/member/hutcheson-archibald-1659-1740

Francis Dobbs was the barrister hired to sort the whole mess out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Dobbs

If you didn't know this already why were you so quick to shoot me down on the other thread?  ???

No!!!   Dobb's Report is compiled from Pedigrees he found!!

It looks like the Dobbs Report is based on the version of the Stewart pedigree which Betham had compiled and which were listed elsewhere and by McAnlis!! 

Dobbs has over 3500 names in his report, where do people think he got them from??

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #168 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 21:58 BST (UK) »
Attached is Betham’s note of the marriage licence for Irwin Stewart* and Elizabeth MacDaniel.  This can be viewed on Findmypast (searchable), or for free on familysearch (not so easy to search).

*According to Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Irwin and his son Charles McDaniel always signed their name “Stewart” – it seems that later generations changed it to “Stuart”.

Here is an extract from the will of James “Fatty” Stewart, the uncle of Elizabeth McDaniel (also from Betham):

Captain James Stewart
5 Feb 1736 --- pr 21 Nov 1737
Nieces Margt Young alias McDaniel
Niece Susanna Sumpton als McDaniel
Niece Elizabeth Stewart alias McDaniel
Nice Sara MacDonniel
Sister Jane McDanniel
Godson Alexander Stewart of Ballylough
Nephew Charles Mac Daniel



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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 22:06 BST (UK) »

or Stuart

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #170 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 00:30 BST (UK) »
Which wealthy Dobbs are you referring to Hallmark?
The wealthy Dobbs who left the bequest...

Oh!  It wasn't Dobbs who left the bequest, it was Archibald Hutchinson.  He left a load of money to his "poor and necessitous relations":
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1715-1754/member/hutcheson-archibald-1659-1740

Francis Dobbs was the barrister hired to sort the whole mess out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Dobbs

If you didn't know this already why were you so quick to shoot me down on the other thread?  ???

No!!!   Dobb's Report is compiled from Pedigrees he found!!

It looks like the Dobbs Report is based on the version of the Stewart pedigree which Betham had compiled and which were listed elsewhere and by McAnlis!! 

Dobbs has over 3500 names in his report, where do people think he got them from??



Yes... Dobbs did the report! Son of Rev Dobbs etc etc  by researching Wills to prove/disprove claims

Same Wills Betham looked at...or did Betham use Dobbs stuff ??

Haven't a clue who Hutchinson was...


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