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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #171 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 01:03 BST (UK) »

Not sure why you're having a pop at me or expect me to be an expert on Dobbs but as I say you seem to be the only one doing actual reearch on them.

Why in the last 40 years didn't someone even look to see who the one at Trinity was and from where??   LIMERICK.

Dobbs was selected because of Who he was and knew...

The Irwins were from Roscommon, their pedigree MS has been posted.... and they intermarried with the Ormsbys... who also intermarried with Stewarts   e.g Catherine Stewart nee Ormsby (link https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-PGJ9?i=645&cat=185720 ) some earlier ones too!  You have Sarah Ormsby marrying an Irwin...etc

No point in looking for them in Antrim if they weren't in Antrim!

You've James Stewart registering stuff in a transaction with Dobbs as previously posted!

Looks like more progress has been made in the last 40 hours compared with whatever is in some book or whatever from 40 years ago!

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #172 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 01:12 BST (UK) »


2 Stewart Ormsby there, one after other.

Might have a look for Stewart/Irwin stuff tomorrow

The Ormsby Pedigee is in my other house and not travelling at moment due to Lockdown ( thanks to Chinese Take-Away )

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #173 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 01:17 BST (UK) »


Hutchinson's Legacy had to be dealt with in London and terms changed ... What year was it and What was outcome?
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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #174 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 01:22 BST (UK) »

 

So Christopher Irwin married Sarah Ormsby somewhere, at sometime, she left a Will in 17--, and they had a daughter Jane Irwin at sometime maybe in Roscommon..who then married a Stewart, somewhere, whenever and they had a son Irwin at some stage and he married Elizabeth McDaniel and ended up in Antrim.

Is this correct?


Bit vague.  Any idea of dates for anything?

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #175 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 01:47 BST (UK) »

Are these the same Stewarts marrying same Dobbs  ??

Antrim/Armagh/Kildare

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #176 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 02:03 BST (UK) »


I see McAuley mentioned too in above... any connection with John/George of Red Bay??

Did you read George's Will ?  Anything interesting in it?

Haven't read it!


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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #177 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 14:51 BST (UK) »
So can you give me tips on how to search for these Stewarts/Stuarts on Ancestry and Family Search?
Stuart (India, Antrim, Armagh)
Whiting (Bedfordshire)
Dunn/Taylor (Worcestershire)
Pearson (Worcestershire)
Hill/Rhodes (Worcestershire)
Gough (Warwickshire)
Perry (Devon, Worcestershire)
Maynard (Essex, Yorkshire)
Jennings (Devon)
Coldicott (Warwickshire, Gloucestershire)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #178 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 22:24 BST (UK) »


Don't know about Ancestry... but FS is very difficult to explain, there are a few posts on the Ireland Resources Section explaining how to use them which will most probably be under Reg of Wills/Deeds threads.

I'm used to them having been to Reg of Wills/Deeds in Dublin for too many years and having them explained. They are not in numerical sequence many times and page numbers don't match the page numbers in reference.

For instance, I was looking for irwin/ormsby stuff so obviously they would be under 'I'

ehhh.. No.

When I looked at the 'I's there were only a few Surnames....then I realized many were under J

So one needs the check E for Erwin, Ervine  I for Irwin, Irvine and if none under I then check J for Jrwin, Jrvine  because of the way some wrote their I's  and others wrote the J's  so these are often lumped together.

For Stewart... check Stewart, Steward, Steuart, Steuard, Stuard, Stuart etc etc...

The Index is here... 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/185720?availability=Family%20History%20Library


the early ones are for many years  e.g.  Grantor index O 1708-1785 but as one goes through the following years you can see how difficult or virtually impossible to find stuff without having a reference to what year something happened!

So you find one you want to look at...the first column matches the volume (v) you need so you scroll down catalog until you see Deeds, etc., v.   e.g  Deeds, etc., v. 158-159 1752-1753

if you need 159 you need to scroll to middle of film then look for the black index card at start of film, double check it says 159 then look after black card for the reference number you want. At that stage you can hope it is in the sequence lot....if not all one can do is check page after page after page until it is found.

Simple enough when you get used to it..... so end of tips! 

attaching a snippet from Index so you can see without a year extremely long process!
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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #179 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 22:40 BST (UK) »


Ormsby/Irvine

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNJ-TZZ2?i=251&cat=185720

their next entry is under

Ormsby/Irwin



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