William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington

[fergusonsfolly]

Trying to find information on my wife's great grandfather.
Shows on 1871 Census as William Simpson Taylor, living his mother Mary Taylor, a lodger.
Probably Mary Taylor probably not married. I suspect the father is a Mr. Simpson.
William Simpson Taylor appears again in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census.
Hoping that information will lead to info on my wife's Grandfather, William Taylor born 1897. Can only find scant details of William the son.

[avm228]

You really need to start with William Taylor b 1897 and work backwards.  Where was he born, and have you found him in a census in 1901/1911 and/or the 1939 Register?  Whom did he marry - and what paternal details were given then?

[avm228]

William Simpson Taylor’s son William was born in 1895 rather than 1897.

Ada Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1894 Warrington
William Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Sep qtr 1895 Warrington <<<
Arthur Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1898 Warrington

[Ladyhawk]

The GRO indexes shows no mother’s maiden name on his birth entry - so suggests illegitimate

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  SIMPSON   -
1870  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 155   

Is William Taylor the adopted son of Jonathan & Matilda Bollellor on 1891 c census
RG12; Piece: 3076; Folio: 113; Page: 15

Did he marry Alice?

1901 census RG13; Piece: 3580; Folio: 78; Page: 28
they have sons
William born c 1896 Warrington
Arthur born c 1898
Ada born 1894

EDIT - looking at the original 1891 census surname could be MELLOR
Jonathan Mellor
Matilda B Mellor

[Ladyhawk]

A public family tree on Anc*y gives following info.

William Taylor born 3 April 1897 Warrington - detail taken from 1939 register
son of William Simpson Taylor & Alice

William married age 25 occ Gold Beater, father William labourer
spouse Ivy Davies (copy of  1922 m/c)
Lists 6 children one private

They say his death is John William Taylor born 13 Dec 1902 died 1970 Warrington 
that can't be correct due to his dob

Ivy Taylor died 1950 Newton Lancashire

No details on mother Alice as to her maiden name or when she married William Simpson Taylor

1911 c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYJ-4B7 shows another child of William Taylor & Alice dau Florence born 1893 Warrington

[trish1120]

Baptism:
23 Oct 1870 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire
William Taylor - son of Mary Taylor
Abode: Tanners Lane
Notes: Illegitimate
(LancsOPC)

I am not sure whats going on here as those Birth Regs have Mother as Newall.

But this seems to be the Marriage and William does not name a Father.

Marriage:
 4 Mar 1893 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
William Taylor - 22, Slater, Bachelor, 18 Back Dallam Lane
Alice Whittaker - 18, Spinster, 9 Golden Grove Street
Bride's Father: Abel Whittaker, Carpenter
Witness: H. Smallman; Alice Julia Hamilton

Occp and age is correct

Trish

[trish1120]

More confusion

Baptism:
29 Jan 1875 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire
Alice Newhall - [Child] of Abel Newhall & Ellen
Abode: Foundry Lane
Occupation: Green Grocer

Aaah 1881 Alice is a Granddaughter;
William Whittaker, 50
Sarah A. Whittaker, 40
Arthur Whittaker. 16
John Whittaker, 14
Alice Newall, 6 born Warrington

1891 Census
Abel Isaac Newall 36
Ellen Newall   34  Carpenter
Alice Newall   16*****
Sarah A Newall   14
Elizabeth Newall   7
Ada Newall   3
Edwin St Newall   4/12

[Cas (stallc)]

Here is the marriage....

Abel Isaac Newall, age 19, Bach, occ. greengrocer, of Catherine Street
Marriage Date:   11 Jan 1875
Parish:   Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name:   Abel Newall,  occ. miller
Spouse's name:   Ellen Whittaker, age 18, spinster, of Catherine Street
Spouse's Father's Name:   William Whittaker, occ. greengrocer
Witness - Abel Newell - Jane Mc Clure?

Cas

[ThrelfallYorky]

If you trace via censuses, Mary in 1861 is with her widowed father James, in Crossley Street, and is working then as a fustian cutter - as she was in 1871. In 1851 James has his wife, Ann (Roberts ) still alive.
No clues about William Simpson T's father yet, sorry. Looking round in area to see if there's a likely lad....