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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 16:50 BST (UK) »
... So far likeliest all seem a bit younger than Mary T:
A William Simpson b Warrington 1853, with his aunt Martha in the 1861 census...
A William Francis Simpson b 1851 who was living in Warrington in 1861, s of Charles and Ellen, in Irlam Street
A William Simpson b Warrington 1853 a servanty to the Hambleton family in Manchester
- all pure conjecture so far...
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 17:03 BST (UK) »
Baptism:
23 Oct 1870 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire
William Taylor - son of Mary Taylor
Abode: Tanners Lane
Notes: Illegitimate
(LancsOPC)

I am not sure whats going on here as those Birth Regs have Mother as Newall.

But this seems to be the Marriage and William does not name a Father.

Marriage:
 4 Mar 1893 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
William Taylor - 22, Slater, Bachelor, 18 Back Dallam Lane
Alice Whittaker - 18, Spinster, 9 Golden Grove Street
Bride's Father: Abel Whittaker, Carpenter
Witness: H. Smallman; Alice Julia Hamilton

Occp and age is correct


I looked and couldn't find a NEWALL/TAYLOR marriage and the only one on FreeBMD 1893 Warrington was WHITTAKER/TAYLOR so I did wonder - well done Trish

Address for William S(impson) Taylor on censuses

1911 8, Dallam Lane, Warrington, Lancashire ,  William’s occ. Slater
1901 same address wife Alice children Ada, William & Arthur William's occ. Slater
1891 same address adopted son Jonathan & Matilda B MELLOR occ Whitesmith
1881 same address visitor Jonathan B(uckley) MELLOR & Matilda B Mellor nee Keenan
1871 address Foundry Street Bakehouse Yard, Warrington, Lancashire, mother Mary TAYLOR lodging with BATE family
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 17:46 BST (UK) »
William Simpson Taylor’s son William was born in 1895 rather than 1897.

Ada Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1894 Warrington

William Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Sep qtr 1895 Warrington <<<

Arthur Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1898 Warrington

These appear to be the baptism of the above children (Lanc OPC)

27 Sep 1894 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Ada Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 15 Aug 1894
    Abode: Dallam Lane
   
28 Nov 1895 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
William Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 11 Aug 1895
    Abode: 25 Dallam Lane
   
5 May 1898 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Arthur Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 7 Mar 1898
    Abode: 20 Dallam Lane

Couldn't find anything for dau Florence from 1911c  ???

edit - possible death of father William Simpson Taylor from familysearch

England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
William Simpson Taylor age 67   
burial 17 Jun 1938 St Anne, Warrington, Lancashire   
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:03 BST (UK) »
William Simpson Taylor’s son William was born in 1895 rather than 1897.
Hi, Thanks for the response. I have Willliam Taylor born 3 April 1897 from the 1939 census.

Ada Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1894 Warrington
William Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Sep qtr 1895 Warrington <<<
Arthur Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1898 Warrington
Alice Taylor, mother of the younger William Taylor,  - I had not followed that line yet.
Thanks for the info.


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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:05 BST (UK) »
free search 1939 register using advanced options using William's dob from baptism record 11 Aug 1895 gives this result

William   Taylor   1895   Warrington C.B.   Lancashire   England   23 Pendlebury Street
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3 more people are on this record and 2 officially closed

Searching advance option using surname only Taylor and address gives this result

Ethel   Taylor           1899   Warrington C.B.   Lancashire   England   23 Pendlebury Street   
William   Taylor   1895   Warrington C.B.   Lancashire   England   23 Pendlebury Street   
William J   Taylor   1931   Warrington C.B.   Lancashire   England   23 Pendlebury Street   

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FreeBMD shows a WJT 1931 birth Warrington mmn Bowers

Edit this is the death of the above William Taylor same dob as baptism

William TAYLOR born  11 8 1895
Death quarter   2
1979 Warrington Volume   35 Page   1033
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:10 BST (UK) »
Well if we are looking for William Taylor born 3 April 1897, the William who was born 11 Aug 1895 (son of William Simpson Taylor & Alice, and found separately in 1939) doesn’t seem to be him!

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:11 BST (UK) »
You really need to start with William Taylor b 1897 and work backwards.  Where was he born, and have you found him in a census in 1901/1911 and/or the 1939 Register?  Whom did he marry - and what paternal details were given then?

Asking this again :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:22 BST (UK) »
I have Willliam Taylor born 3 April 1897 from the 1939 census

Is this William Taylor married?
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:26 BST (UK) »
It looks as though he must have married an Ivy née Davies at some point 1920s or earlier - not found it yet.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)