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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 June 19 18:07 BST (UK) »
There is a John and Ann Whitby baptising children in Maidstone. No Albert, but there is a Joseph, but he and four other children were baptized the same day in 1837.
The said John's occupation is shoemaker. ::) ::) ::)
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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 June 19 18:15 BST (UK) »
The said John's occupation is shoemaker. ::) ::) ::)

Consistent with the paternal occupation on Albert's 2nd marriage in Marylebone, 1864 (Bootmaker).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 June 19 18:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Suffolk Sue and Avm228,
The muddy waters are beginning to clear a little.  Though things are not at all straightforward in this branch of the WHITBY family.  Surely those two young individuals, aged just 11 and 8, in the Ipswich Workhouse in 1841 with the same family name must have been related/connected...
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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 June 19 21:17 BST (UK) »
...Avm228, at the risk of making a nuisance of myself, can I ask you who it was that Albert got remarried to in 1864 in Marylebone.  In the 1881 and 1891 Censuses he appears to be married to someone called Susannah.  Whereas the only possible variations of forenames for possible brides on that reference on FreeBMD  are Rebecca and another name I've forgotten to note down, but it certainly wasn't Susannah.  Unless of course his second wife preferred using another of her forenames for the Census enumerator.
Cannot as yet find Albert in the 1871 Census, either.  A bit of a slippery character to keep tabs on, I'm afraid.
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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 June 19 21:25 BST (UK) »
No problem.  He married Rebecca Farthing (widow) daughter of Thomas Key, 8 August 1864 at St Marylebone.

She may or may not be the Rebecca who turns up again under surname Farthing (widow) in Marylebone in 1881, suggesting the marriage did not work out.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 June 19 21:29 BST (UK) »
Here she is in 1871:

4 Queen St, Marylebone (multiple households)

Rebecca Whitby Head Mar 48 Laundress Warwickshire Farnboro
John H Farthing Son Unm 18 Clerk (book trader) Middlesex St Marylebone


She is a match for the “widowed” Rebecca Farthing found in 1881.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 June 19 21:43 BST (UK) »
Avm228, that's SO good of you, another knotty headscratcher untied for me...
Some complicated goings on in Marylebone at that time.
Keith
...and another piece in this complicated jigsaw seems to be that Albert went back to Suffolk and married a Susannah CLOWERS in the Ipswich area in 1874.  I just hope the 1866 marriage of an Albert WHITBY in Islington was not him as well!

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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 June 19 07:35 BST (UK) »
Have you got this

08/08/1864 Christ Church Marylebone
Albert Whitby W  City Missionary  of Lisson Grove fth John Boot maker
to
Rebecca Farthing W of Croydon St  fth Thomas Key Servant

Witnesses
Henry Smith
Catherine White

If this is your Albert he certainly moved about

Louisa Maud
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Re: 1850 Billericay marriage WHITBY/SHOEBRIDGE?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 June 19 09:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for that Louisa Maud,
Now, I wonder what exactly a City Missionary did to either earn a living or get a following...
If this is indeed the same individual - certainly looks like it - he seems able to change his spots on a regular fashion, or indeed the description of what his father did for a living.
One could perhaps instigate a lively thread on what bride or groom insisted their fathers did as an occupation - or indeed whether they were in fact deceased or not at the time of the marriage.  And was it possible for someone to check the the veracity of the entry in the marriage book/record...?
Keith