Author Topic: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901  (Read 1769 times)

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 14:29 BST (UK) »
Probate record for William Henry Jenkins of The Buthchers Arms 11 Caer -street Swansea died 25 May 1900 ..Licensed -Victualler ..Administration Carmarthen 18 Sept to The Reverend Arthur James Jenkins Presbyterian Minister effects £267 ..

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So is this the son who died in 1900?

Yes I would say so avm ;)

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 14:41 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Rosie - that's put a lot of jigsaw pieces together. The Rev Arthur was William's younger brother who had gone to Ireland and ended up at the Presbyterian Church in Enniskillen.

Could I ask where you found the probate records please?

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 14:44 BST (UK) »
At least you know now when they died ...Still not found William on the 1891 Census  :)

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 15:03 BST (UK) »
The William Henry Jenkins I did find in the 1891 and dismissed (see post above) may actually be my man after all. The probate record you provided for his mother Sarah describes his occupation as 'checker'. The 1891 at
Piece:   4485
Folio:   6
Page Number:   14
describes that William Henry's occupation as 'Checker Harbour Trust'. So it is highly probably we are dealing with one and the same despite the two year difference in given age and the oddity over birth place.

This would mean The Butcher's Arms was Jenkin Jenkins' pub until his death when his wife took over as publican (not the son as I had thought). William Henry only became licensee on his mother's death in 1896 - the street directory entry has him as publican in 1900 (compiled before William Henry died that same year). I supposed it had passed from father to son - should have known better as Sarah's younger sister was also a widowed publican.


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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 17:43 BST (UK) »
Yes would say that looks like him on the  1891 census ..Possible marriage 1886 Swansea to  Annie Rees ...The probate record was on Ancestry

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 21:25 BST (UK) »
Notice of Sarah's death

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3341362/3341370/114/

(Elsewhere she is referred to as the landlady)

Interestingly the licence is transferred from WH Jenkins in 1901
 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3345978/3345983/47/

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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 22:40 BST (UK) »
Notice of Sarah's death

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3341362/3341370/114/

(Elsewhere she is referred to as the landlady)

Interestingly the licence is transferred from WH Jenkins in 1901
 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3345978/3345983/47/

Thank you very much for those helpful leads.
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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 22:43 BST (UK) »
Yes would say that looks like him on the  1891 census ..Possible marriage 1886 Swansea to  Annie Rees ...The probate record was on Ancestry

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Interesting that the son's mother's maiden name is given as LLEWELLYN on the GRO index and not REES. Something to research.
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Re: Missing publican JENKINS from Swansea 1891/1901
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 22:45 BST (UK) »
Yes would say that looks like him on the  1891 census ..Possible marriage 1886 Swansea to  Annie Rees ...The probate record was on Ancestry

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Interesting that the son's mother's maiden name is given as LLEWELLYN on the GRO index and not REES. Something to research.
David

The son Thomas Llewelyn Jenkins on 1891 appears to have been born before the marriage, given he's aged 8, so was she married before?