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Offline MattD30

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William or Dan?
« on: Monday 01 July 19 01:13 BST (UK) »
I'm hoping someone can help me work out what the name of my ancestor William West's father might be. His christening appears twice on FamilySearch with one entry giving his father as "Wm" and the other as "Dan" both dated 29 April 1627 in Pulborough.

The entry can be seen at the following link [it is on the right hand side of the page 6 lines down from where it says "Baptisms Anno Don 1627"] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-698Q-PXQ?i=20

This is the only instance of a William recorded for that date but I can't decide if the first letter of the father's name is the same as the "W" of William [and West] or different.

Can anyone help or advise?

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Matt

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 July 19 01:18 BST (UK) »
To my bleary morning eyes it is Wm, short for William. It's very faint, but the swirls look the same as the name of the son.
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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 July 19 02:03 BST (UK) »
To my bleary morning eyes it is Wm, short for William. It's very faint, but the swirls look the same as the name of the son.

Hi there

I agree with you. To my eyes it looks like "Wm" and that was my first instinct when I read it. Also "Dan" just doesn't sound right for the period.

Incidentally I should have said in my post that this William was "my potential ancestor".

There is also a William christened on 14 May 1622 in Pulborough, the son of John West.

Initially I thought (and still think it likely) that this was my William given that my William's eldest son (born in the 1650s) was named John and given that I can't see him having a son named William.

I only found the second William (the one in 1627) by chance when looking at the PRs on FamilySearch. Unfortunately I can't find a burial for him or the other William yet.

Thanks again for confirming the name.

Matt

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 July 19 07:47 BST (UK) »
Hello

The William baptised 29 April 1627 at Pulbourgh was son of Henry,according to SFHG

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 00:09 BST (UK) »
I stll think it says "Wm", but someone has read it as "Hen" for Henry.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 07:08 BST (UK) »
On FreeReg..

William West. Baptism 29 Apr 1627. St Mary, Pulborough. Father Wm West.

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 13:49 BST (UK) »
Well I’m not one for being disagreeable but I think it’s Henry too :-\

The ‘W’ in William is very different to the initial in the fathers name if you look carefully, well it is to me.

There is also a marriage of a Henry West in Pulborough 26 July 1624 to a Mary Older. Doesn’t mean much given there are 7 William West marriages within a 10 mile radius of Pulborough between 1604-1624

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 17:33 BST (UK) »
I'm plumping for Wm as well. Looking for the same hand in other lines nearby as well for comparison, I can't turn the W into a D even upside down, and sorry, Claire, but how on earth do you get Henry? I can't see it as H not nohow - and where's the 'y'?

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Re: William or Dan?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 17:41 BST (UK) »
Quite easy

As William is abbreviated to Wm in some cases  - I think it is abbreviated to Hen.

On the 22 July a John is baptised to a Mr Humphrey - the H is very similar on this entry.

I’m sticking with Henry  ;D


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