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Offline Romilly

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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 July 23 13:50 BST (UK) »
I’ve recently ordered a PDF Death Certificate for Mary Ann Kean, nee Young, who died of TB in January 1891.

It shows that she was definitely married to Richard Kean, who was a Sapper in the Royal Engineers. And so he must be the man at Cheriton Barracks on the 1891 Census.

I’ll try attaching it here.

The problem is what happened to him next? I’ve never been able to find a Death Entry for him…

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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 July 23 16:59 BST (UK) »
there was a marriage beteen a Mary Ann Young and a Richard King in Cholton Lancs in 1880
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Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent,
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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 July 23 17:15 BST (UK) »

Richard Kean married Mary Ann Young at St Wilfred’s RC Church, Hulme on the 18th September 1880.

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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 July 23 17:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sandiep on Saturday 15 July 23 16:59 BST (UK)
there was a marriage beteen a Mary Ann Young and a Richard King in Cholton Lancs in 1880
Vpl 8c Page 1062

meant to say Richard Kean ::)
Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent,
Dowell,cornish,mulley,Death,Rosier,
East End,Suffolk,Essex,Cornwall,Devon,London,  middlesex, hertfordshire                                      Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 July 23 17:38 BST (UK) »
they must have had a daughter Catherine married in USA in  1911 cos parents are Richard Kean and mothers maiden name Mary Ann Young.  Did we find this before ? its a while since I looked for your grandfather.
Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent,
Dowell,cornish,mulley,Death,Rosier,
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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 July 23 17:41 BST (UK) »

Yes thanks Sandie, - we did!

I haven’t looked for a while because it seemed impossible 😵‍💫

However, ordering that PDF of Mary Ann Kean’s death, has spurred me on to have another look…👀

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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 July 23 18:12 BST (UK) »
Know what you mean it still seems most likely answer name change but without proof its a leap of faith .........so many similar bits its like that one in the Victoria police gazette all points to him same name date of birth occupation birth place but theres nothing more must admit its a mystery but one day it will be solved !!!
Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent,
Dowell,cornish,mulley,Death,Rosier,
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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 July 23 18:18 BST (UK) »
What's really needed is the original marriage certs showing his real signatures on both.

Is there  chance that yoy might get the originals, Rommilly?
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Re: Service Records for the Royal Engineers, 1891
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 July 23 14:25 BST (UK) »
One of the problems with signatures at that time is that everyone was taught copperplate handwriting at school.

However, it’s something that I could pursue… I already have the original Marriage Certificate for William James Wilson and Margaret Rees, and I could order a PDF of the one for Richard Kean and Mary Ann Young.

I’ve been looking to see if Richard Kean senior, 1832 - 1894 left a Will, but can’t find anything.

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Wilson, Warren, Dulston, Hooper, Duffin, Petty, Rees, Davies, Williams, Newman, Dyer, Hamilton, Edmeads, Pattenden.
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