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Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« on: Thursday 01 August 19 12:55 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me with this one?

Not quite sure if I am still allowed a 1911 look-up, but even if not, if anyone can point me in the right direction I will look up myself. 

I can access Ancestry, and FindMyPast seems to be down at present, but I can't believe with the info I've got, I can't see these people.

Frederick George PAY birthdate not known.  I'm trying to find out how he links to my family
wife
Sarah PAY nee Freeman born 23/9/1884 (from 1939 when she's widowed with her married daughter)

They married 1906 in Eastry, Kent

In the 1911 they would have had two children with them (and I know both survived beyond 1911)

Cecilia Victoria Gladys PAY born 1910 Sept qtr Medway  dob from 1939 is 1/9/10 so she'd be 8 months or so in the 1911
Frederick Richard John PAY born 1907 Dec qtr Eastry dob 12/9/07, so he'd be 3/4 in the 1911

Don't need any other details about them, thanks - I would just like to find them in the 1911 so I can pin down who Frederick George PAY is.

Thank you!

ADDED:  I thought they would still be in Kent, given the Medway birth of their 1910 daughter, and they were still in Kent for the 1912 birth of son Stanley Victor PAY in Medway

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 August 19 13:21 BST (UK) »
Haven't  got access right now as not on my computer but have you just searched Cecelia with no surname to see if she has been miss transcribed, will have a look later if I can

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 August 19 13:22 BST (UK) »
Sarah and the children are in Gillingham 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWDV-YTX

That transcript is not complete
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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 August 19 13:25 BST (UK) »
They are all together in 1911 - transcribed on Ancestry as 'Gay'.

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 August 19 13:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Rosie!    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I didn't try Familysearch, my bad.

Frederick's in the Navy, then - added at the last minute to the census, perhaps he got some unexpected leave, and so didn't appear as Head.....

Will now have to go back and see what Ancestry's transcribed them as.  ;)  Oops, Annette's found them for me.  Thank you!
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 August 19 13:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks again LouisaMaud, Rosie and Annette for looking!
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Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 August 19 14:17 BST (UK) »
you wrote, I would just like to find them in the 1911 so I can pin down who Frederick George PAY is.


Frederick George Pay died 1932 aged 57 so he was born circa 1875

Birth Dec qtr 1874 Frederick George Pay MMN Freeman Eastry ref 3a 837

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 August 19 15:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: louisa maud on Thursday 01 August 19 14:17 BST (UK)
you wrote, I would just like to find them in the 1911 so I can pin down who Frederick George PAY is.


Frederick George Pay died 1932 aged 57 so he was born circa 1875

Birth Dec qtr 1874 Frederick George Pay MMN Freeman Eastry ref 3a 837

Louisa Maud

Thank you, Louisa Maud, am hunting him down now.  A man from Sandwich, and he married his cousin, Sarah Freeman from Liverpool.

I'd been quite successful finding all the details, it was just the wretched 1911 where - although I knew his name - I couldn't find him to pin down his dob.

Help so much appreciated  ;D ;D ;D
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Frederick George PAY family, Kent 1911
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 August 19 15:05 BST (UK) »
Have you got married of his possible  parents of

1869 John Francis Pay
married
Jane Freeman
Dover
ref 2a 1405

I do believe, correct me if I am wrong but a Sarah Freeman is living with John and Jane on 1891 as "niece" born Liverpool

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London
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