Author Topic: Modern version of Crone/Croane?  (Read 3016 times)

Offline pkkerry

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Re: Modern version of Crone/Croane?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 August 19 23:38 BST (UK) »
My other grandmother was a Cronin from Glencar, she was born in Dromdarragh just to the north of Shronahiree.
 I have a Breen cousin who I think is descended from your Breens. He'd be a great great grandson of Henry(Harry) Breen, David and Johanna's son.

When you look at the spread of Crones, the majority seem to be encircling The Reeks. Most of them, with some exceptions, seem to be within a couple of miles of the foothills of the mountains.
I know the area well, but I use the DCU site for the townlands I'm not familiar with. It gives a fairly detailed map of all the townlands and the topography. 

https://www.logainm.ie/en/22184


 

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Re: Modern version of Crone/Croane?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 August 19 01:46 BST (UK) »
The number of Crones in Killorglin is really quite curious. 

Slightly more than half the number of Connors. 
More than double the number of Neils.
About three times the number of Lynches.
More than double the number of Cronins.
Quite a bit more than the number of Breens.

It is almost like a whole clan, rather than a few families with a common ancestor before the records begin.  Such a curious mystery.

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Re: Modern version of Crone/Croane?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 August 19 01:48 BST (UK) »
And they almost have a distribution like a territory.

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Re: Modern version of Crone/Croane?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 August 19 11:15 BST (UK) »
There's a bunch of Cork Crones on Page 195 of the TCD Alumni at https://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=LCN10378529_0003


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Re: Modern version of Crone/Croane?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 December 20 02:06 GMT (UK) »
p107 of The Ancient And Present State Of The County Of Kerry, by Charles Smith, 1774
https://archive.org/details/TheAncientAndPresentStateOfTheCountyOfKerryCharlesSmith1774/page/n123/mode/2up
Seems to reference the Crone/McCrohan Sullivans and says that they held a castle near Caherciveen.

The castle was located at Letter or Leiter.
https://www.logainm.ie/en/22109

Pretty fascinating, if you go into the references.  The Calendar of Patent Rolls 1604, has this reference:  Connor Mc Owen O'Swillivan, otherwise called Mc Creohan

I guess they had this duel identity for hundreds of years.