Author Topic: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts  (Read 3316 times)

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 10 August 19 09:10 BST (UK) »
You have a court document from the adoption hearing for Terence James Poole, at 1947.
How is mother recorded on this document. Is mother named.....does mother sign this document.
'Poole' and his mother are not mentioned. It's the hearing at which his adoption to the people I knew as my grandparents was confirmed. So it just says (slight paraphrase) :
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It having been proven to the satisfaction of the Judge that the child was born on 13/06/45 and is identical with Terence James entered in the Register of Births in Kingsclere and Whitchurch... and the entry shall be marked 'adopted'.
My luck was in the relative rarity of the Christian name and the fact that searches can be carried out online without a surname.

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 10 August 19 09:17 BST (UK) »
Please can you post the following details from the marriage certificate:

1. Age and address of Evelyn
2. Where the marriage took place
3. Date of marriage
4. Witnesses to the mariage

1. Age 20, Address: Chockton Cottages, Stroud Green, Newbury
2. The Register Office, Newbury
3. 21st July 1938
4. ED Chandler / E Poole (I'm guessing this is Eleanor Poole)

Thus far it all seems to tie in with the 1919 Evelyn you were mentioning...?

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 10 August 19 11:19 BST (UK) »
Regarding the witnesses, the ED Chandler could be Edith Dora Poole b.25 Jun 1913, a sister of William Henry Poole, as per their father's Service record. Edith's marriage -

Edith D Poole
q4 1936, Newbury, Berks
Spouse - Stanley J Chandler
Volume 2c Page 796

Was hoping the ED Chandler was a relative of Evelyn, so no help there  ???

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 10 August 19 11:58 BST (UK) »
Regarding the witnesses, the ED Chandler could be Edith Dora Poole b.25 Jun 1913, a sister of William Henry Poole, as per their father's Service record.

Was hoping the ED Chandler was a relative of Evelyn, so no help there
JJ you've been hugely helpful, as has candrjm.
Your help has got me to the point where I believe I may have identified and tracked-down a couple of living siblings of my father! I need to order a couple of birth certificates now to rule out errors.


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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 10 August 19 12:02 BST (UK) »
Pleased we have all been of help to you. If you need any further help then please don't hesitate to ask as there are many people on this site that have a wealth of knowledge and are only too happy to share with others.  :)

Happy hunting!

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 10 August 19 12:03 BST (UK) »
Where is this enquiry going in researching Evelyn May POOLE?

What outcome are you now looking for?

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 10 August 19 13:39 BST (UK) »
Part quote from JJ on page 2:

Free search of the 1939 show a Walter Roberts (1883) living in Newbury with Annie E Roberts (1892)

Possible parents of Evelyn May.


I think that we can rule that couple out as Evelyn's parents

Marriages Sep Q 1917 

Roberts    Walter    West    Henley    3a   2149   
West    Annie E    Roberts    Henley    3a   2149   

No birth registration for an Evelyn Roberts with mothers maiden name West found

possible birth of a daughter:
Births Sep 1919   
Roberts    Nancy    MMN West    Henley    3a   1519

1939 address (for the above couple): Priors Court Cottages Chieveley

Walter Roberts died 22nd July 1967 in Newbury probate records his address as 3 Priors Court Cottages Chieveley

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=roberts&yearOfDeath=1967&page=32#calendar

Newspaper obituary records  he died 22nd July 1967 at Arlington Grange Nursing Home Newbury, left widow Annie Ellen, daughter Nancy and grandchildren

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 10 August 19 15:37 BST (UK) »

Free search of the 1939 show a Walter Roberts (1883) living in Newbury with Annie E Roberts (1892)
Possible parents of Evelyn May.


I think that we can rule that couple out as Evelyn's parents
Yes I looked up the 1939 record and came to the same conclusion. Mother looks to be Ann Milsom (marriages 1913 referenced above). Which may be

Births Sep 1891 - Milsom, Ann -  Highworth    5a   30

I can't see another obvious candidate at this point, anyway.

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Re: Seeking Paternal 'birth grandparents' - Evelyn Roberts
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 10 August 19 15:41 BST (UK) »
Where is this enquiry going in researching Evelyn May POOLE?

What outcome are you now looking for?
Good question!
I started the process just wanting to know the history on my father's side, as I have for the past 25 years - who his birth parents were and perhaps get an idea of why he was adopted. Now there are possible siblings of his in the picture, it's quite exciting to be honest. I was up pretty late last night doing research.  8)
But at this precise moment I'm interested in working backwards to explore her background.