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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 10 August 19 13:09 BST (UK) »
Is this your Henry in 1851
HO107/2042 f594 p16 - Dudley

In the household of Joseph & Jane Beard
Mary   Hadley -Step Daughter -19 occ Shoe Binder   
John   Hadley -Step Son- 17   occ Cord Wainer    bn Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hadley - Step Daughter - 15   bn Dudley, Worcestershire
Henry Hadley - Step Son -    14 occ Apprentice To Cord Wainer bn    Dudley, Worcestershire
Patience Hadley   Step Dtr -   11 bn Dudley, Worcestershire

Marriages Sep qtr 1844   
BEARD    Joseph       
Hadley    Jane       
Worcester    18   557

It is possible that the John Hadley age 17 was baptised 14 Jul 1833 at Rowley Regis parents John (deceased) and Jane.

Mary who is listed before him was baptised 18 December 1831 parents John Hadley occ Victualler and Jane.

There were two burials in Rowley Regis for a John Hadley
23 Mar 1833 age 32
24 Aug 1832 age 76.

Thanks for this Rosie.  Just now need to try and work out his birth year but you've given me info to work on which is appreciated.  I did find a couple death and burial records for a john hadley who died 9th June 1841 but if Jane remarried then your dates work much better.  Thanks for all this 👍. The Hadleys at stages are not proving easy to work out but I had worked out Esther Orford was a different family.  I took her off the tree, went back to Henry and got to John and Jane.

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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 10 August 19 13:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this Rosie.  Just now need to try and work out his birth year but you've given me info to work on which is appreciated. 

From my earlier post

Henry Penn
Baptism    26 Mar 1837
Dudley, Worcestershire
Father James Penn
Mother Jane

ADDED Free reg has
Baptism 26 Mar 1837
Father James Penn
Mother Jane
abode   Darby Hand
Fathers occupation   Blacksmith
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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 10 August 19 13:21 BST (UK) »
Also from freereg - address same as Henry & Patiences baptisms

Church - St Thomas, Dudley
Burial    21 Feb 1841
James Penn
age   56
abode   Derby End
Notes Died 18 Feb
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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 10 August 19 15:37 BST (UK) »
Is this your Henry in 1851
HO107/2042 f594 p16 - Dudley

In the household of Joseph & Jane Beard
Mary   Hadley -Step Daughter -19 occ Shoe Binder   
John   Hadley -Step Son- 17   occ Cord Wainer    bn Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hadley - Step Daughter - 15   bn Dudley, Worcestershire
Henry Hadley - Step Son -    14 occ Apprentice To Cord Wainer bn    Dudley, Worcestershire
Patience Hadley   Step Dtr -   11 bn Dudley, Worcestershire

Marriages Sep qtr 1844   
BEARD    Joseph       
Hadley    Jane       
Worcester    18   557

It is possible that the John Hadley age 17 was baptised 14 Jul 1833 at Rowley Regis parents John (deceased) and Jane.

Mary who is listed before him was baptised 18 December 1831 parents John Hadley occ Victualler and Jane.

There were two burials in Rowley Regis for a John Hadley
23 Mar 1833 age 32
24 Aug 1832 age 76.

This John above is Henry and Jane greenfield St's son who went on to a naval career

Reference:   ADM 139/297/29617
Description:   
Name   Hadley, John
Place of Birth:   Cradely, Staffordshire
Continuous Service Number:   29617
Date of Volunteering:   16 June 1856
Date of Birth:   02 June 1834
Date:   [1853-1872]
Held by:   The National Archives, Kew
Legal status:   Public Record(s)

He's also listed with Jane Penn on the 1841 census and appears again on the 1851 census.  In 1901 he's with Mary Hadley on the 1901 census.

It's Henry's father John hadley that I would like to find out about, who married Jane. 


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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 10 August 19 15:38 BST (UK) »
Henry's father was not John Hadley, it was James Penn  :)
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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 10 August 19 15:57 BST (UK) »
Is this your Henry in 1851
HO107/2042 f594 p16 - Dudley

In the household of Joseph & Jane Beard
Mary   Hadley -Step Daughter -19 occ Shoe Binder   
John   Hadley -Step Son- 17   occ Cord Wainer    bn Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hadley - Step Daughter - 15   bn Dudley, Worcestershire
Henry Hadley - Step Son -    14 occ Apprentice To Cord Wainer bn    Dudley, Worcestershire
Patience Hadley   Step Dtr -   11 bn Dudley, Worcestershire

Marriages Sep qtr 1844   
BEARD    Joseph       
Hadley    Jane       
Worcester    18   557

It is possible that the John Hadley age 17 was baptised 14 Jul 1833 at Rowley Regis parents John (deceased) and Jane.

Mary who is listed before him was baptised 18 December 1831 parents John Hadley occ Victualler and Jane.

There were two burials in Rowley Regis for a John Hadley
23 Mar 1833 age 32
24 Aug 1832 age 76.

So Henry's dad John could be one of these entries?  Thanks

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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 10 August 19 16:29 BST (UK) »
John Hadley bn c1833 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire was living with his mother Jane Beard in 1851.

In 1861 He was with his wife Martha RG09/ Piece   2092 f109 p5.  Also with them was a daughter Mary E Hadley 11 months and a William Beard age 41.  John's occupation was Shoe maker

1871 He is still married to Martha  RG10/3050 f128 p21.  They have 3 children and William Beard is still living with them.

1891 as you say he is staying with Mary - still a shoe maker. He is married, his wife Martha is entered elsewhere on this census (a servant)
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I think that the John Hadley born Cradley, Worcestershire with parents John & Jane was an apprentice Spade Maker in 1851 .Piece 2033 f524 p54
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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 10 August 19 17:17 BST (UK) »
Henry's father was not John Hadley, it was James Penn  :)

Duh!! Yep, so too patience, Elizabeth.  Lol ivr changed my tree.  Got all hubbies on it, all kids, now tracking hubby John hadley down lol

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Re: Henry, John and William hadley help!
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 10 August 19 17:25 BST (UK) »
Henry's father was not John Hadley, it was James Penn  :)

And the death entry for March 1833 gave Johns birth year of 1801.  Ty x