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Re: Historical House
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 August 19 13:54 BST (UK) »
Valuation Revision Books should list property from printed version of Griffith's to after 1911 census (Northern Ireland ones online and go to c1930 but not sure where you'll find Tipperary ones)
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 August 19 13:58 BST (UK) »
The Link I posted says...

Shanbally was occupied by John Gasson in 1814 but had become the home of Peter Smithwick by 1837. He held the property from Samuel Gason in the mid 19th century when the house was valued at £26.13 shillings.


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John Smithwick was in Shanbally House in 1901
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 August 19 14:06 BST (UK) »
Yes but Valuation Books might give clues as to people living on the estate  ;)
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 August 19 14:10 BST (UK) »
Valuation Office Books 1848
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o86/

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 August 19 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hello again Everyone, 

Thankyou for the suggestions.  I acknowledge that Mr Smithwick was  living in this house back in 1837.

From what has been said  Mr Smithwick held the house from Samuel Gason.  Does this mean that Samuel Gasson owned it and Mr Smithwick lived there,  either renting or on lease. 

The link poster by Kiltaglassen to the Valuation Office books was right on what I need to know in the first instance. 
 It shows that is was a large  establishment with facilities that would have required such employees as coachmen and game keepers or gardners. 

There are listed three houses - the large main house valued at   22Pounds 18shillings and 4pence. the other two were less  one being  2pounds 4 shillings   the third less again, the Basement house was 11pounds 2 shillings and 1 penny. 

There are various other facilities including cow houses, coach house, Stables and piggery, fowel house etc..  Several of some  total value 55pounds 9shillings.   [sorry I do not have the pounds key]

Therefore it is distinctly likely that there were servants or employees who were at this establishment. 

Again thank you for all of this.  I think that this place has become Shanbally Farm today growing medicinal herbs. The photo on their website of the farm buildings seems to support the above.

On their website they have mentioned finding documents from earlier about a family O'Meara whilst doing renovations in 2014.   

Thankyou again.   I now know that the place is potentially correct for  the family information.  It would be interesting to know who actually did all the work, but that seems a lot to ask at present.

Thanks again Essnell.

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 August 19 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,
you say...………….
 I acknowledge that Mr Smithwick was  living in this house back in 1837.
From what has been said  Mr Smithwick held the house from Samuel Gason.  Does this mean that Samuel Gasson owned it and Mr Smithwick lived there,  either renting or on lease. 
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Smithwick owned the house and land.
Between 1824 and 1825 a Henry Allen lived there. Henry also had land and Property in a near by townland in Lismore.
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 August 19 10:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Maggsie,

Thankyou for the info.  Much appreciated.

Each bit helps to build a picture of who and when this house was occupied by. 

Essnell