Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton

[PatsyAnnKelly]

Thank you LU. Yes I had seen the date of probate and realised it was not the correct Daniel Ryan. I agree the inconsistencies, albeit not necessarily insurmountable. Yes I thought from the title of the record that Violet was the petitioner. Possibly Ryan's behaviour towards Violet may have been the trigger for Winton changing his name by deed poll. I am now shelving any further searches for Daniel Ryan . I was only interested in him and his whereabouts in his role as step-father and "carer",  for a limited time , of the two men I have been searching for. I am grateful for all efforts you have all put in in respect of him though.
Alan thank you for the offer but it probably doesn't serve any purpose to search the deeds now, you have enough to do at the archives. I appreciate your help.
For the sake of clarity I am in the U.K., cannot get to the archives in NZ and although I am signed to MyHeritage they do not have many NZ records on their site so I am very grateful for all input.
Now concentrating of trying to trace Edwin William Ryan.
Thanks
Patsy

[PatsyAnnKelly]

Wow Minnie re the snippet about Violet, what a story! How salacious were divorces then and what florid language used! Violet got about a bit. Interestingly her daughter, (Esther)  was mentioned albeit not by name. Thanks for that. Like a soap opera.
Her will was a great piece of info. Obviously she remained in contact with the children from her Turner marriage as they and their children were the only beneficiaries of her will. Winton  and Edwin were not mentioned.
Yes I made a slip of the keyboard by saying she had married an Edwards, don't know where that came from.
Brilliant. Thank you.
Patsy

[Lucy2]

Info for Edwin William RYAN  :

His cremation record can be found at the following link >

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/find-burial-cremation.aspx

RYAN - Edwin William
Retired Plasterer
Died:   11 May 1985

The Funeral Directors name is given at the link - maybe they can supply additional information or, you could request a RootsChatter to assist with obtaining his funeral notice ?

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/find-burial-cremation.aspx

Also at the link above is the cremation record for Elsie May RYAN, widow of Edwin WIlliam RYAN.

Elsie May RYAN
aged 82 years
Died :   23 February 1996
[Ashes interred with those of her husband, at Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland.]

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

NZ Marriage - NZBDM (online index)

Edwin William RYAN -- Elsie May TAYLOR -- Year:   1936

Date of Marriage (deduced from online index) =  19 December 1936

   ~  Lu

[mckha489]

1935  26 Graham Street, Auckland Central, Plaster

1938 Eden Supplemental roll
Edwin William RYAN 10 Cricket street   Plasterer
Elsie May RYAN ditto. Married

1946 11 Kiwi Road, Grey Lynn, Plasterer.    No Elsie

1949  11 Kiwi road, both Edwin and Elsie

1954 10 Cricket Avenue again, both there

1963 1 Peachgrove Road, Te Atatu  both there

1972 1 Peachgrove Road.  Edwin is a Council Foreman, Elsie still with him plus another Female E.M. Ryan  (might still be living)

ditto 1972 for 1978

1981 all three, 1 Peachgrove Road, Edwin now retired.

[Lucy2]

Cheers Mckha489   ... had been about to add similar information.   

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hello PatsyAnn

There appears to have been a child (daughter) of the marriage of Edwin and Elsie May.    And as Mckha489 has suggested, she is probably still living so unable to post her details in this thread.   Happy to supply them though if you want to PM me. 

The funeral notice for Elsie May RYAN - died  1996 - would be worth obtaining also (for the reason that it would likely give more up-to-date info on the location of the couple's child, or children.)

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Some additional electoral info (gathered earlier) >

1935 - Auckland Central electoral roll

ARMSTRONG - Violet - married
ARMSTRONG - Henry Ernest - platelayer (Violet's husband)
RYAN - Winton Herbert - clerk (listed on Supplementary roll)
           
                             ... all residing at 26 Graham Street
[+ RYAN - Edwin William - plasterer ]

1938 - same roll --  ARMSTRONG V. and H. + RYAN - Winton

    ~  Lu