Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton

[minniehaha]

Hello rowetown,

A very warm welcome to Rootschat! 

No wonder we could not find the birth registration for Violet Sweet Harvie! Another mystery solved.

Added: In case this is unknown, her actual date of birth was:1.4.1883.

Together I'm sure we will be able to break through a few more of those remaining brick walls.

We look forward to hearing from you again......

Minniehaha.

[rowetown]

Thank you very much Minniehaha
Yes quite a few mysteries in our family that I hope we can continue to uncover

With smiles and gratitude

[Fresh Fields]

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Violet also marring Daniel Ryan (possibly the landlord)? in 1918???

Why did Sydney not keep in touch with his two sons to Violet?

Is 1936 the correct date of name change by deed poll of Winton Herbert Turner to Ryan or is it meant as changed before 1936??  It seems strange that he would change it to Ryan after Violet divorced Daniel Ryan on grounds of desertion in 1928
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Welcome to the thread ROWETOWN.

If I can get my hands on some early survey plans with sufficient resolution I should be able to see how the original survey allotment numbers relate, to todays street numbers, and may be able to provide more answers.

Re the deed poll question, with regard to the actual dates on the record I looked up, clippings attached.

If you are not / have not shared, with PatsyAnn; by supplying me by Private Message, with an email address, I can share with you, the Auckland archives look-up photos.

Regards,

Alan.

[PatsyAnnKelly]

Hello Alan
I was just about to ask you privately if I had your permission to share with her all the fantastic stuff you have provided me with following a marathon stint at the archives . I will send the info to her by email as we have been in touch for a few weeks now.
Rowetown I will forward Alan's stuff.
Thanks very much
Pat

[Fresh Fields]

All Good. In a look up of Webber St in papers past I tonight found a Deposit Plan number for a survey that includes lot 5, Section 9. As Daneil RYAN'S was lot 12, Section 9, Parish of Waitemata, it should be possible to determine todays street numbering. Assuming I can locate the deposited plan.

Alan.

[PatsyAnnKelly]

I have received the Registration printout of the birth of Edwin William Ryan Reg No 1914/21908
Registration dater 22nd September 1914 Date of birth 30th June 1914 at New North Road, Eden Terrace
Mother Violet Sweet Turner ( NB the decree absolute of her divorce from Frank Turner was 1912)
Nee Harvie Born Auckland Age 27
Father Sydney Rowe
Born Thames
Aged 25 Occupation Tailors Presser
Parents relationship; Not in a legal relationship
First Informant Sydney Rowe. Father Glen Terrace
Second informant Violet Sweet Turner. Mother . Glen Terrace

I believe Rowetown has sent for birth certificate for his brother Winton Herbert Ryan currently awaited.
Thanks
PatsyAnn

[Fresh Fields]

Hello again.

Have booked for Friday viewing, a plan which I hope may show how the street numbers compared to the lot numbers, in that area of Auckland. Will keep you briefed.

Alan.

[PatsyAnnKelly]

Tanks very much Alan
Patsy