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BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 11:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am wondering if there is someone who would be able to do a lookup for me of a marriage that occurred 22 November, 1873,  at Barrow. 

The groom was Arthur BRAND and the bride was Rebecca RUTTER.  I am particularly interested in the name of the bride's father and the names of witnesses.

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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 16:23 BST (UK) »
I can see why you want to know, she is rather elusive pre marriage isn't she  :-\
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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 16:50 BST (UK) »
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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 17:58 BST (UK) »
Could this gal be her?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1DW-XLM

Not her I'm afraid - name was actually Catherine Rebecca Brett (dau. of Henry and Eliza) and she married a Thomas William Larkins 1865 Dover - they are still together in Dover 1881.

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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 01:55 BST (UK) »
I can see why you want to know, she is rather elusive pre marriage isn't she  :-\

Hi, Milliepede,

Yes, she sure is elusive.  Her age varies so widely on census that one can't even be certain of her true age. 

My response to the other two correspondents has more detail. 

Thank you for your interest, it is appreciated.
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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 02:33 BST (UK) »
Hi, Ladies,

Thank you all for your interest in my post. 

I strongly suspect that Rebecca Rutter was born circa 1837 at or near Sittingbourne, Kent, to parents William Rutter and Caroline nee Ruck.  The family travelled around Kent starting out in Faversham, then to Sittingbourne, then to Bredgar.  Caroline died in 1852 and by 1861 William had remarried and was living at Bury St. Edmonds with his new wife and Rebecca, Ann (the youngest) and Edward, all children of William and Caroline. 

One of their other children, Caroline, married Robert Earll in Bredgar, Kent in 1863 and remained there, landing in the Kent Lunatic Asylum sometime after the birth of her child in 1871, until her death in 1892.  This couple had 4 children between 1863 and 1871, 2 of whom had died before 1871 and the third had died before 1911.

I am definitely interested in finding the details of Rebecca Rutter and Arthur Brand's marriage as I have a DNA match with a fellow who has Rebecca Rutter in his online tree.  Unfortunately, he has no more information about her.  But, this appears to be the only place where we can connect our two ancestries.  We would share the grandparents of Caroline Ruck as common ancestors.  So any assistance in checking the marriage of Arthur Brand and Rebecca Rutter would be most welcome.



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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 03:13 BST (UK) »
This looks like her in 1861 Bury St Edmunds...

William Rutter  Head  51  Dover, Kent
Rebecca Rutter  Daughter  20  Sittingbourne, Kent

William is a widower








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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 03:59 BST (UK) »
If this is the right William Rutter then his wife was Caroline.
As 1851 census  Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent.  HO107   1627 / 175   12
William Rutter b 1812 Dover.
Caroline Rutter b 1812 Faversham.
and the following children...
Emily Rutter b 1835 Sittingbourne.
Caroline Rutter b 1842 Faversham.
Edward Rutter b 1844 Faversham.
William Rutter b 1848 Faversham.
Ann Rutter b 1850 Faversham.



There is also to William and Caroline...

Sarah Anne Rutter.  baptised  3 May 1840, Milton-next-Sittingbourne.
Henry Rutter.  baptised  29 Sep 1845, Sittingbourne, Kent.
Rebecca Caroline Rutter. baptised  1 Jul 1838, Sittingbourne, Kent.
John Rutter. baptised  29 Sep 1845, Sittingbourne, Kent.

Edward Rutter b 1844 Faversham seems to be...
Edward Richmond Rutter. baptised  18 Feb 1844, Sittingbourne, Kent

Can't find a marriage for William and Caroline but the name Richmond may be a clue.

 


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Re: BRAND-RUTTER Marriage -Barrow, 1873
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 07:36 BST (UK) »
Caroline's death ?

RUTTER, CAROLINE        40 
GRO Reference: 1852  M Quarter in MILTON  Volume 02A  Page 343