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Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« on: Wednesday 14 August 19 18:38 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can find the above gentleman in the 1871 census, please ? . He is in the 1881 census at Weirglodd Goch, Llanddeiniolen. He is described as the 'nephew' of the head of household, William Ellis Rowlands. He can be found with the same family in 1891 and 1901, with consistent details.
He is also found on GRO births in 1861, with the mother's surname being given as 'Rowlands' . Since Llanbeblig records are not online, his baptism might be available at the archives (But the family were certainly staunch nonconformists) .
   By process of elimination, and assuming a legit birth, I suspect his mother was Anne Rowlands ( b 1829, Llanddeiniolen) . She is still with her parents in 1851, so any marriage would be 1851-1861. The son's name would suggest a father named Robert Jones, but I cannot be sure as to whether Anne would have married under the surname Williams or Rowlands.
Assuming the mother was Anne, I've found possible parents in 1861 at Hole-In-The-Wall-Street in Caernarfon ( But no other censuses, and I can't make out the father's profession)
I've exhausted all online routes, so I'd be grateful for any suggestions as to 1871 and/or parents' marriage.
Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Owen , Parry , Pritchard, Foulkes  o Llanddeiniolen
Jones, Bellis o Sir Fflint
Williams o Beaumaris
Chambers o Dulyn
Rowlands o Tywyn

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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 August 19 09:55 BST (UK) »
Baptisms 1785-1875 and Marriages 1813-1837 for Llanbeblig St Publicius can be found on FreeReg. No Ellis Robert Jones though.

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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:03 BST (UK) »
There is an 1861 marriage between an Ellis Jones and Jane Rowlands in Carnarvon district
Also 1860 marriage Robert Jones and Rhoda Rowlands
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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:18 BST (UK) »
Have you seen this family? May be connected as there is a birth registration of an Ellis Roberts Jones in 1861.
Ellis Roberts Jones
Age:   37
Estimated birth year:   abt 1844
Relation:   Head
Spouse's name:   Jane Roberts Jones
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Carnarvon, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish:   Llanddeiniolen
County/Island:   Caernarvonshire
Country:   Wales
Street address:   Llain Fawr
Condition as to marriage:   Married
Occupation:   Slate Quarrier
Registration district:   Carnarvon
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Ellis Roberts Jones   37
Jane Roberts Jones   40
Robert Jones   17
Mary Jones   12
Ellis Jones   11
Sarah E. Jones   5
David E. Jones   1
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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:20 BST (UK) »
Possible in Everton in 1871?
Piece 3819 folio 73 page 41
Ellis R Jones, 9, born Carnarvon
Parents Robert M Jones, 40, and Ann Jones, 41
Family here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD66-V3J

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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:24 BST (UK) »
Maybe
JONES, EVAN  ROWLANDS     
Mother's Maiden Surname: ROWLANDS 
GRO Reference: 1871  M Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 384

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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:32 BST (UK) »
Possible in Everton in 1871?
Piece 3819 folio 73 page 41
Ellis R Jones, 9, born Carnarvon
Parents Robert M Jones, 40, and Ann Jones, 41
Family here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD66-V3J
Well done ,looks good
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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 August 19 14:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, that fits in exactly with the 1861 details. Thanks very much to all of you for your help.
Owen , Parry , Pritchard, Foulkes  o Llanddeiniolen
Jones, Bellis o Sir Fflint
Williams o Beaumaris
Chambers o Dulyn
Rowlands o Tywyn

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Re: Ellis Robert Jones ( b 1861, Caernarfon/Llanbeblig)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 August 19 08:30 BST (UK) »
Hi

If you are looking for the 1871 entry on Ancestry they have the surname transcribed as Lord. It is difficult to read but the address is Creswick Street, Everton and Robert M Jones occupation is shown as Chemist and Druggist.

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