Pengelly-Talland

[NooshieW]

I have just checked the 1871 census and the Elizabeth Bartlett living with her mother Elizabeth Pengelly was born 1813 not 1803 ,so not the same one?sorry to labour the point, but I am not wholly happy that this Elizabeth Pengelly was born in Lantaglos near Fowey, I cannot think why she would be baptised in Lansallos.

[jonw65]

Could she be the Elizabeth Pengelly buried at Talland, 21 Oct 1863, age 84, abode West Looe?
Info from Cornwall OPC.

(presuming that the Elizabeth buried at St Martin by Looe, 5 April 1861, just before that census, age 83, abode East Looe, was the the lady living in East Looe in 1851)

There is a memorial inscription, Talland parish church, John Pengelly, died 28 May 1855, age 73. But no mention in the index of Elizabeth.

Re possible other children, it's difficult with there being quite a few Pengelly families in the area, but have you looked into this marriage at Maker, 30 June 1828
John Willcocks of the "Windsor Castle" and Ann Pengelly, a sojourner in the parish
BT here (marriage is not on Cornwall OPC)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-G6Z6?i=84&cat=1833620

In 1841 John and Ann Willcocks are in Back Street, West Looe, next household to John and Elizabeth.
In 1851 they might be all together there? Ann, 40, born West Looe.

[jonw65]

Is Elizabeth with Thomas and Martha Vague in 1861?
piece 1531 folio 109 page 12
Fore Street, St Martin
Thomas Vague 44 Laborer
Martha Vague 43 Laborers Wife, born West Looe
Elizabeth Vague 21
Elizabeth Pengilly Boarder 71 Formerly Laundress, born Llansallos

Not sure about her marital status though, possibly is widow.
Age is quite a way out. But Martha is the daughter baptized 1816?

[jonw65]

John Willcocks of the "Windsor Castle" and Ann Pengelly, a sojourner in the parish
BT here (marriage is not on Cornwall OPC)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-G6Z6?i=84&cat=1833620

Looking again, maybe not sojourner after all!

[NooshieW]

Yes, the Elizabeth Pengelly living with the Vague family,is the correct lady. Definitely not the school teacher.
I think the Back street people look good, but I am still struggling to get a firm grip on this branch.
You are right, the age would be totally wrong for an 1801 marriage.
There is an Ann Pengelly of the right age baptised in Lansallos,but the parents are William and Elizabeth not John and Elizabeth, I am so confused unless she is a niece of the other couple or maybe just nothing to do with them at all.

[steviepeas]

Hi
I am looking for my 4 x Gt Grandfather John Pengelly bc 1780 possibly in Talland ,as that is where my 3 x Gt Grandma Martha was baptised in 1816.
I don’t have a marriage for John,the closest being John marrying Elizabeth Olford in 1801 in Talland.
However,I can only find two children of the John and Elizabeth pairing, my 3 x Gt Grandma Martha and a son John in 1814. It seems a big gap between marriage and children.
I have found a couple on 1851 census living in Looe ,John and Elizabeth Pengelly and then an Elizabeth Pengelly who is a widow in 1861,but wrong birthplace for the Elizabeth marrying in 1801 who was from Lansallos.
Help please.

You may find the www.tallandchurch-ancestry.uk useful which records all gravestones, ledger stones and tablets in the church, is searchable and has images and locations of each stone and