Jones in Liverpool

[lancsann]

please can anyone interpret where John Jones age 60 was born on this 1851 census. I am struggling to read it

Name:   Margt Jones
Age:   19
Estimated birth year:   abt 1832
Relation:   Daughter
Father's name:   John Jones
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:   Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Nicholas

Town:   Liverpool
County/Island:   Lancashire
Country:   England
Street address:
5 Ryleys Gardens

Registration district:   Liverpool
Sub-registration district:   Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel:   1cc
Neighbors:   View others on page
Household schedule number:   41
Piece:   2179
Folio:   910
Page Number:   17
Household Members:   
Name   Age
John Jones   60
Elizh Jones   60
Thos Jones   45
Elizh Jones   50
Margt Jones   19
John Jones   9

[CaroleW]

Definitely Wales ??Llanidloes

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I agree with LLanidloes

[lancsann]

thank you very much - obvious when you tell me! I had interpreted the ending as ddoes

Further away from Liverpool than I thought and not near the sea either which I found strange as he was a mariner

[Mabel Bagshawe]

However, looking very closely at the image, I;d suggest that Margaret and John are the children of Thomas and the younger Elizabeth. In Thomas's "relationship to head" box it reads lodger, but with "head of family" written above it which  makes me think the Joneses below are his

[lancsann]

I agree Mabel. The John & Elizabeth are my family and they did not have a daughter Margaret and their son John was born in 1853

[lancsann]

another suggestion I have had from elsewhere is LLanddulas - which is on the coast

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Definitely appears to end "loes" to me. Enumerators in Liverpool might well know where Llanddulas was and add a county, as they have for Beaumaris. Llanidloes down south, much less familiar to them

[lancsann]

thanks Mabel - good logic. Probably academic as I can't see me finding the right John Jones in mid Wales, it is just that I have tried to read it for some time and thought I would see what others thought