St Albans Pontypool 1862 - HAMILTON

[Milliepede]

Edward Hammer looks interesting doesn't it.

There was an earlier EH born Pontypool 1860 death 1861.

Same mothers name George but birth under Hamer.  Death under Hammer.

Oh just found a death in 1862 as well under Hammar so that could rule out the birth that looked promising 

[Megabite]

Hi,

I did see that death and yes I think it's a strong possibility, but I am so wary from the disaster that corrupted years of work that I triple verify everything now and I just dont have enough background to confirm that one currently, but thanks for noticing it.
I am in the process of getting some more DNA relatives tested to try and link to other tests and trees in hopes of overlaps as part of my tree around the time of Edwards birth branches to Massachussetts in the USA and I think it will be a brother of his father leaving Ireland after the Potato famine.  So that would be a great link that I may get from his birth certificate.
Thanks very much
Angela :-)

[Megabite]

Hi,
I didnt see the other death under Hamer I was searching the GRO and it needs the surname so I typed in the Hammer and Hamilton options with her maiden name and didnt get any more hits.
That other birth and death makes me a little less inclined to think it is now as it sounds like the name is probably correct, but then again they may have 'changed' it.  I came across another part of the family who decided to remove the 'jewishness' from their name seems that names were a lot more fluid in the past.
Thanks for that info.

Thanks
Angela :-)

[Megabite]

Hi,
Are you using the GRO for searching or another database?  Do you have a way to 'wild card' the GRO? Or are you just way better than me at Ancestry or My Heritage searches.
Thanks for saving me some time on that lead, did you see the Edward Harris?  I discounted him as Hammer seemed so much more likely.  LOL.

Thanks
Angela :-)

[Megabite]

Hi,
Considering she called the first two boys Edward, it's got to be either her husband or one of their fathers names so that would rule out the Thomas Hamilton and Eliza George I saw getting married in Ireland in 1861.  I do struggle to stay focused on one path when working on my tree its so easy to start looking for one record and end up somewhere completely different 2 hours later LOL.
I would be very interested in any 'wild card' features for the GRO.  I have just ordered two certificates from there this week.
Thank you so much for all your help its been great to get the insights of someone who knows lots about research.
Thanks
Angela :-)
 

[Megabite]

Hi,

I forgot to mention that I think I have the 'residence' of Edward in 1911 he was boarding with is son at the time of the census.  I also got confused rushing to reply, yes I have recorded the death of Edward as the 1939 record as this came from a researcher that another family member enlisted previously so I assume his work is correct.
I looked at some of the other roots messages to see if there was a wildcard feature for the GRO that I had missed and it appears someone mentioned the underscore was written into the software but not enabled.  I am guessing Milliepede is just exceptional at guessing other spellings to try, better to kill my bad leads early so very handy.
FYI if anyone else replies I keep odd hours because I am not based in the UK so apologies for slow responses.

Thanks very much
Angela :-)

[jonwarrn]

As he seems to be the only one of that name and age from those parts, have you wondered whether in 1881 he might be the Edward Hamilton, 21, born Usk Monmouth (dittoed from above entry)
In barracks at Brecknock, a private in the Royal South Wales Borderers Militia.

There is also a record of an army deserter called Edward Hamilton
Deserted 16 May 1881. Age 21, born Pontypool, the index says he deserted at Monmouth. Possibly from the Monmouthshire Regiment (I haven't seen original)

[Megabite]

Hi,

Ooh thats helpful, the researcher did mention in the Military record but I only received the 'notes' none of the researchers documents as they were 'lost' (digital USB drive) and I havent found them on Ancestry searches but I did note them on my ancestry tree so I could look into them later.  I was focusing on trying to get the USA connection as I am travelling there in a couple of months there is so much to do when you start a tree again from scratch.

Thanks for the info, you are all so helpful.

Thanks very much
Angela :-)

[jonwarrn]

Well the desertion is apparently in the Police Gazette. His regimental number was 7514.
It might be the same chap in the 1881 census, as they often joined the regular army after a short spell in the militia.
But as I say, I haven't got the full info.
Good luck!
John