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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #36 on: Friday 06 September 19 10:51 BST (UK) »



Newenham were the Landlords.

Now sure if any Shiels married into Newenham  or Tighe.




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« Reply #37 on: Friday 06 September 19 10:53 BST (UK) »


Not sure if any Shiels married into Newenham  or Tighe.
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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #39 on: Friday 06 September 19 14:34 BST (UK) »


In britishnewspaperarchives I found another story mentioning Brabazon Disney Sheils which is interesting but I don't understand. It says that
"Decrees In Chancery. "James Hodson Bond (plaintiff), Brabazon Disney Sheils, William Farran and Rebecca Sheils Eccleston as defendants. 
 
I am wondering if like was mentioned Brabazon married this Rebecca Sheils Eccleston that was named in the newspaper article about some dispute over land and wonder what that was about since it involved Brabazon's son-in-law?

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In Wm Eccleston's Will of 1806  George Shields of Drumshallon, Co. Louth had to change his name to Eccleston.............grrrrrrrrrr!!   ;D




Copy of grant of Arms being Eccleston quartering Shields to George Shields of Drumshallon, Co. Louth, on his assuming by Royal Licence the name and arms of Eccleston in conformity with the will of William Eccleston, March 13, 1806.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.105, p.37


the snippet from Burke posted has him as Sheils!

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #40 on: Friday 06 September 19 16:17 BST (UK) »
Henry Shiels or Sheils I found in the Catholic on line records for the Parish of Darver. I started to look a few years on each side of 1814 for more children, but the hand writing is so cramped and how to read but I will keep trying.


Baptism 19th ? June Henry Sheils of Brabason & Rose Rooney; Sponsors Patt Dislly ? & Mary Butler;  Darver.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632544#page/104/mode/1up
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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 07 September 19 03:23 BST (UK) »
All this new information is so amazing but over my head in understanding.  I'm trying so hard to make sense of it all. I am correct in saying that William Newenham married a Catherine Tighe 25 July 1807 COI in Dublin. At some time Catherine Newenham is the landlady owning a lot of land in Co. Louth where a portion of this land she owned was "leased to Brab D. Sheils and other men  mentioned in the document?

Then Henry Sheils (Brab's brother marries a Rose Eccleston but has to change his last name to Eccleston to get a large dowry from Rose's Father which was money and land to ensure his daughter had a good life?

I don't understand these land agreements, dowry etc.

Getting back to Brab and Rose Rooney who he supposedly married at 60 years of age in 1850, I guess they had their children before marrying but I would think back in those times that would be a major moral scandal and if he had money, land etc. he wouldn't want a reputation especially if the church found out? Just my assumption but I'm no authority of this.

So exciting but so frustrating trying to get all these people in order, who did what and when. Thank you everyone once again for this information. Maybe some of my poor Irish ancestors weren't all so poor and lead a hard cruel life, but maybe some had some comfort!!!

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 07 September 19 07:21 BST (UK) »




Henry Sheils married Rose Eccleston...

Sheils had a Family Crest. I reckon George, as posted.

Eccleston had a Family Crest

so on one quarter of the crest the Eccleston crest had to be put onto the Sheils Crest.

If it were me..... I'd email National Library of Ireland  quoting

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.105, p.37


...and ask for advice on how to proceed from there and asking the cost of getting that page BUT via 2 emails.

One to

‎info'at'nli.ie for advice

One to

jharte'at'nli.ie for cost

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Keep emails simple and to the point!!







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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 07 September 19 07:25 BST (UK) »




The problem with  Sheils Eccleston is......

What are things registered under in Indices?  Sheils?  Eccleston? 

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