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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 08:45 BST (UK) »
The marriage certificate certainly has a number of omissions. ::)
 
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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 10:30 BST (UK) »
Yes I HAVE EDITED A POST AFTER SOME HOURS AND AFTER OTHERS HAVE READ AND POSTED...

MODIFYING at 7.30 pm AEST NSW Re decipher location....

Re the DWYER family on the Racehorse, arriving to NSW 22 September 1866
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5316&item=4_4789&ship=Racehorse   This is the live link to the passenger list

Richard DWYER, AGED 23, a labourer, from Tipperary, I(reland), Roman Catholic, Can Read and Write.
Bridget DWYER, aged 23, wife, also from Tipperary, Roman Catholic and can Read and Write
Ellen DWYER, aged 2, Tipperary, Roman Catholic
Edmund DWYER, aged 1, Tipperary, Roman Catholic

The Immigration Deposit Journals for that voyage show
Certificate No
Deposit No
Depositor
Date of Deposit
Christian Name and Surname at full length
Age
Whether Husband or Wife resident in the Colony
Trade or Calling
Where living – in Great Britain or Ireland
Name and Address of some person of note to whom reference can be made respecting the Emigrants
Proportion to be applied to Passage £ s d
Porportion to be applied towards Outfit   £ s d
Total £ s d
Remarks

The depositor was Dennis BARRAGRY, he was aged 22.   He provided for the following:
Richard DWYER aged 23;  Bridget DWYER 23; Ellen DWYER 2 ½;  Edmund DWYER 6 months;  Mary O’CONNOR 40; Elizabeth SLADE 28; Michael SLADE 22.
Richard and Bridget were from Tipperary, BUT THE REST OF GROUP WERE NOT, I have attached a snip with their location in long hand.  I am not familiar with Irish localities.   ****
Mary was a Widow,  Elizabeth a Servant and Michael a labourer.

Referee was Revd S HOWLEY, Tipperary
The Immigration Deposit Journals are available on Microfilm at the NSW Archives, Kingswood, NSW.  Reel 2672 for the above info re Dennis BARRAGRY

Here's the newspaper announcement re those deposits ... SMH 25 Sept 1866, 
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28613152  - There's DWYER, O'CONNOR and SLADE listings against Denis (one 's') BARRAGRY.

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Yes, well ... err .... the word I could not read ... yes ... it is IRELAND ...
So the DWyer Family and Mary and Elizabeth and Michael ... were from ..
Tipperary,
Co(unty ) Tipperary
IRELAND.
 :-[  :-[  :-[  ???  ::) ... my specs needed cleaning....

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 11:09 BST (UK) »

Can you please list all the information on the death certificate, 1906, Edmund DWYER.

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 11:46 BST (UK) »
Typed Transcription Joy Murrin
Regn 11645  dod 15 Nov 1906   place Wardell   name Edmund Dwyre
Blacksmith   male   age 43   cause Tuberculosis of lungs  duration 3 years
medical attendant  s. Manti, 15 Nov
Father PARENTS NOT LISTED    F's occupation  blank     M's maiden name blank
informant  Mrs P Troy, sister in law Wardell
buried 17 Nov 1906  where Wardell   undertaker  John Byrne  Minister Charles Casey
Religion  RC   witnesses C Way (son in law), P. Flood   
Where born Cork, Ireland  time in colony NOT KNOWN
Place of marriage Wardell, NSW   at age 27  spouse Fanny Campbell
children of marriage   Annie 16, Violet 13, Edna 11, Edmund 8, Kenneth 5, Jessie 4, Errol 2, Jean 6mths living, none deceased
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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 12:24 BST (UK) »
NSW BDM online index for deaths shows that the (death) registration 11645 of 1906 is listed twice... spelling his surname under both DWYRE and DWYER.   :)  so one registration, but indexed twice....

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 19 September 19 03:01 BST (UK) »
I've looked at the NSW resources re blanks.
Edmund Dwyer married Fanny Campbell 3.6.1890 at Wardell, by Rev. Alexander McClinchie of Presbyterian religion.
I don't know if they were married in a church, Fanny would have been very pregnant, giving birth a month later.
I have emailed the Richmond River Historical Society & asked if they know where the parish records would be held.
I will await a reply before contacting churches in the area.
Thank you all again for your knowledge & kindness
Regards Lakelass
Harte Rule Masters Hoad Price Zucker Nixon Watson Way Dwyer Campbell

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 19 September 19 03:13 BST (UK) »
 :)  :)  There is no requirement to be married in a Church Building in NSW ... it is a church marriage as the ceremony was conducted by a clergyman  :)  :)   and he was required by his Church laws to record the information on his parish register.   

You are seeking the register that the Reverend used to record ceremonies that he conducted...  :) 

The Presbyterians and the Methodists united to form the Uniting Church in 1977, and much of their archives have become stored together here:  https://directory.archivists.org.au/index.php/uniting-church-in-australia-synod-of-new-south-wales-and-the-act-archives-office    They have nominal fees for retrieving archived material.

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 19 September 19 06:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Majm,
You have so much information. I have sent off an email asking if they hold the parish records. I'll await their reply.

Thanks so much Lakelass
Harte Rule Masters Hoad Price Zucker Nixon Watson Way Dwyer Campbell

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Re: Edmund Dwyer
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 28 September 19 06:15 BST (UK) »
I was quite excited awaiting a reply from the church Archives. They told me to contact Ferguson Memorial Library (Presbyterian church archives) which would probably hold the records. Had a phone call saying "there are no records for this minister & that they were probably washed away in a flood". So back to where I began, not knowing which ship Edmund arrived on or his whereabouts before his marriage, & not being able to prove that he is related to other Dwyers. He is a mystery! 

Thanks again everyone for your help.

regards Lakelass
Harte Rule Masters Hoad Price Zucker Nixon Watson Way Dwyer Campbell