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Two baptisms
« on: Friday 27 September 19 13:51 BST (UK) »
Dinah Drayton.

1. 
First name(s)   Dinah
Last name   Drayton
Sex   Female
Birth year   -
Baptism year   1816
Baptism date   05 May 1816
Place   Cadney
Father's first name(s)   -
Mother's first name(s)   Elizabeth
County   Lincolnshire

Note: “illegitimate”


2.
First name(s)   Diana
Last name   Drayton
Sex   Female
Birth year   -
Baptism year   1816
Baptism date   22 Oct 1816
Place   North Kelsey
Father's first name(s)   -
Mother's first name(s)   Elizabeth
County   Lincolnshire
Country   England

Note: “baseborn”
Andrew/s, Atter, Banberick, Barnes, Bedells, Belson, Bowen/t, Brewster, Burnett, Chantry, Dennis, Drayton, Easy, Eldridge, Ellis, Everat, Gadsby, Golling, Hedworth, Hinton, Hughes, Inkersole, Isaac, Jackson, Kirshaw, Lambe, Lewin, Lish, Lunn, Minchin, Minton, Parkinson, Perry, Pollard, Robinson, Robson, Sharp, Slator, Smart, Smith, Stone Gould, Toppin, Willerton

All mainly Lincolnshire, with Cambs, Herts, Leics, Notts, & Ireland

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 September 19 14:03 BST (UK) »
From the parish register images, available on FindMyPast:

North Kelsey - Elizabeth is of NK - Servant girl

Cadney - Elizabeth is of C - female servant

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 September 19 14:28 BST (UK) »
From the parish register images, available on FindMyPast:

North Kelsey - Elizabeth is of NK - Servant girl

Cadney - Elizabeth is of C - female servant

The distance is 4 miles via road and around half that should you walk as the crow flies. It seems too much of a coincidence that they are both servants with the same name and they have illegitimate daughters with very similar names
Andrew/s, Atter, Banberick, Barnes, Bedells, Belson, Bowen/t, Brewster, Burnett, Chantry, Dennis, Drayton, Easy, Eldridge, Ellis, Everat, Gadsby, Golling, Hedworth, Hinton, Hughes, Inkersole, Isaac, Jackson, Kirshaw, Lambe, Lewin, Lish, Lunn, Minchin, Minton, Parkinson, Perry, Pollard, Robinson, Robson, Sharp, Slator, Smart, Smith, Stone Gould, Toppin, Willerton

All mainly Lincolnshire, with Cambs, Herts, Leics, Notts, & Ireland

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 September 19 14:48 BST (UK) »
It`s entirely possible that they " are" 2 different baptisms.

I have 2 at Grasby where  in each family, "all" the mother`s and father`s names, plus the child`s name are the same.


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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 September 19 14:49 BST (UK) »
If it is just one Elizabeth Drayton with one baby, why baptise the child with two different but similar names, 6 months apart and in two different, yet fairly close, places?

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 September 19 14:59 BST (UK) »
If it is just one Elizabeth Drayton with one baby, why baptise the child with two different but similar names, 6 months apart and in two different, yet fairly close, places?

Emeltom


This is a good question and one that I have a possible theory:
Elizabeth herself had a sister called Diana. Did she want to name her illegitimate daughter that but was forced/pressured to name her otherwise, then later down the line went to a different church and baptised her with the planned name?
Andrew/s, Atter, Banberick, Barnes, Bedells, Belson, Bowen/t, Brewster, Burnett, Chantry, Dennis, Drayton, Easy, Eldridge, Ellis, Everat, Gadsby, Golling, Hedworth, Hinton, Hughes, Inkersole, Isaac, Jackson, Kirshaw, Lambe, Lewin, Lish, Lunn, Minchin, Minton, Parkinson, Perry, Pollard, Robinson, Robson, Sharp, Slator, Smart, Smith, Stone Gould, Toppin, Willerton

All mainly Lincolnshire, with Cambs, Herts, Leics, Notts, & Ireland

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 September 19 15:10 BST (UK) »
On FreeReg there is a marriage at N.Kelsey between an Elizabeth Drayton and Richard Camae. This took place on 22nd December 1818.

It is also on LincstothePast, where it says they are " both of this parish "

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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 September 19 21:38 BST (UK) »
The later baptism may have been the reception of the child into the church. The earlier date may have been a simple baptism at home or in a workhouse. Babies of single women were more likely to die.
Btw a single mother was supposed to confess her sin of fornication before she could be churched. Churching was a thanksgiving and blessing ceremony for a new mother and a welcome back to church and society after the confinement of pregnancy and childbirth.

Dinah and Diana are different names but easily confused. I have a Dinah born around that time who was occasionally Diana on records. Dinah and Diana were not common names where she lived. Were the baptisms at different churches? Spelling would depend on who wrote the name in the register. My Dinah's granddaughter was Dinah; one great-granddaughter was Diana but Diannah in baptism register (compromise or mistake?).  other great-granddaughters were Diana. 
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Re: Two baptisms
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 September 19 11:58 BST (UK) »
I quite agree with the difference in the names. In this particular query I have also seen it referred to as Deana.