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Offline ShaneNZ

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Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 23:49 BST (UK) »
Have a new/old family relative. Johanna McGrath born 1836 (somewhere in Scotland) married Jonathon Bruce from county Offaly Ireland ( Kings County) 16th Feb 1857 aged 21.
The family sailed to New Zealand on the Eastern Monarch on the 7th May 1874.
The only record I have of Johanna Bruce (nee McGrath) is from "Scotland" on the cemetery record here in NZ.
Would anyone be able to tell me where Johanna came from in Scotland. Thank you Shane in NZ.

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 00:06 BST (UK) »
Have you looked on Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Did she marry in Scotland or Ireland

What religion was she

Nothing on the 1841 Scottish census
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 00:33 BST (UK) »
They married where?

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Mar 1857 Wolverhampton 6b 615

BRUCE Jonathan
McGRATH Johanna

Do you have this certificate? A parent’s name would be useful.

Copy of church register entry: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNGW-2HW

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:07 BST (UK) »
Did they have children in England? I am not seeing any on GRO.

I can’t see them on the UK censuses after marriage.

I was hoping to find possible clues to her parents through children’s names.

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:19 BST (UK) »
Have found the immigration, listing the children:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PCS-4NR?i=57&cc=1609792&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFS1C-W38

Added: Or is that just other ‘Bruce’ and not their children?

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:35 BST (UK) »
Is this her death? If so it doesn’t mention Scotland:

Surname: BRUCE
First name(s): JOHANNA
Date of death: Tuesday, 29 December 1908
Cemetery: Linwood
Date of burial: Tuesday, 29 December 1908
Block number: 42
Plot number: 182
Age: 72 years
Occupation: WIDOW
Place of birth:   
Years in New Zealand: 25
Died: Cerebral Haemorrhage.

Mm, did your Johanna remarry in 1893?

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:43 BST (UK) »
Well, this has answered some of my questions:

two topics now merged

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:48 BST (UK) »
Hello Jamjar. Couldn't find anything of being remarried. Yes mentioned place of birth on cemetery record as being "Scotland" but that's all. Thanks Shane

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Re: Johanna McGrath Place of Birth Scotland
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 01:52 BST (UK) »
1893/3910 Johanna Bruce to John McDonald

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