Author Topic: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy  (Read 1761 times)

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 10:31 BST (UK) »
necroscopia = autopsy or post mortem examination

Thanks Shaun for the meaning provided

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 10:32 BST (UK) »
Brief overview of Clara Morlands family tree

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 10:52 BST (UK) »
I don't speak Italian but I am guessing that

la morte ...accertate dal necroscope municipale

means something like " Death was established by the municipal autopsy examiner".
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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 16 October 19 19:06 BST (UK) »
I don't speak Italian but I am guessing that

la morte ...accertate dal necroscope municipale

means something like " Death was established by the municipal autopsy examiner".

Yes that fits 👍


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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 17 October 19 07:38 BST (UK) »
do you know W R CUSHING ?     I would have thought a family member of Clara .
anyway - he/ she  has a familytree - bottom of the page is a contact - this is on my members page so any answer will come to me UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM YOUR E MAIL address - which I would prefer ...thanks
W R Cushing has Clara born 10th October - you have 2nd October - so one is wrong  :(

https://gw.geneanet.org/wrcushing?n=morland&oc=&p=clara+rafaela

good luck  :)
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 17 October 19 07:53 BST (UK) »
I would be suspicious of the details in that tree
Claras father - John Morland b 1778 - parents - father William Morland b 1728 - died 1818 / mother Ann Knight b 1730 - died 1789
this would make William 50 and Ann 48 when John Morland was born - highly unlikely in my eyes
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 17 October 19 08:03 BST (UK) »
do you know W R CUSHING ?     I would have thought a family member of Clara .
anyway - he/ she  has a familytree - bottom of the page is a contact - this is on my members page so any answer will come to me UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM YOUR E MAIL address - which I would prefer ...thanks
W R Cushing has Clara born 10th October - you have 2nd October - so one is wrong  :(

https://gw.geneanet.org/wrcushing?n=morland&oc=&p=clara+rafaela

good luck  :)
Thank you so much for the gesture .. really thank u..  I can access however I cannot contact as I am not a member.. If u are in a position I can PM u with my email address ..

I have a considerable amount of info on the Morlands but I have the honour of paying my respects to Claras resting place and the Morlands and The Cushing families bonded back in history. I am happy to be contacted personally .. Checking out the birth date confirms the second Oct 1830 in the passport application ,, Thanks for raising it.. always worth a second look
really thanks again
Best Regards
Scott Morland
NZ

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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 17 October 19 08:09 BST (UK) »
when you open that link you will see Garstonite in the corner - so it is on MY MEMBER page - you can contact WR Cushing , but he will think it's me - so - as I said contact him /her on my page but pass them YOUR e mail address and they will contact you directly - and for the record - I wouldn't  leave your e mail address on any Genealogist site - many HACKERS out there
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Re: Clara Rafaela Morland B2 Oct 1830, Havana, Cuba D14 Aug 1874 in Rome, Italy
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 17 October 19 08:18 BST (UK) »
I would be suspicious of the details in that tree
Claras father - John Morland b 1778 - parents - father William Morland b 1728 - died 1818 / mother Ann Knight b 1730 - died 1789
this would make William 50 and Ann 48 when John Morland was born - highly unlikely in my eyes
Hi again .. Anne Knight I have as born in 1750.. evidence on the memorial stone died 1789 age 39 William Morland was a fair bit older .. He arrived in Boston 1762 as a merchant .. Our American Morland Pioneer :)