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Maybe a long shot
« on: Wednesday 30 October 19 20:50 GMT (UK) »
but if anyone can solve a friend's family puzzle (or give suggestions) it's going to be you guys

Her father Vincent Everson (15/4/1937-14/10/2004) was brought up by his aunt Doris (1904-2001) in Cardiff Bay - Doris was his maternal aunt

His mother was Violet - father unknown on his birth certificate.  From what my friend was told his father's name was Buzzahock (spelling unsure she's only heard it said) and he had a shop in Aberbargoed - he MAY have been Polish

I think I have found Violet's birth as Pansy Violet Everson in 1906  - no trace of a death, friend assumes she had died and thats why her sister brought him up

Any ideas of where to go from here?  Any help appreciated

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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 October 19 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Is this your friend’s family in 1911? I am wondering if Dorset and Vilet are Doris and Violet?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P6-JVB

If so, the 1939 indexes show a Violet Everson in Bedwas and Machen.
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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 October 19 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at this marriage?

1949 Cardiff

George F C Young and Violet Everson
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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 October 19 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Any idea what the shop was?  Would he have been living above it?  Perhaps it could be traced in business directories for the relevant period and maybe get the name of the person who ran it.
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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 October 19 22:02 GMT (UK) »
So the sisters were:

Doris Everson mmn Cole, Sep qtr 1904 Merthyr Tydfil
Pansy Violet Everson mmn Cole, Sep qtr 1906 Merthyr Tydfil
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 October 19 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Any idea what the shop was?  Would he have been living above it?  Perhaps it could be traced in business directories for the relevant period and maybe get the name of the person who ran it.

I have looked on the University of Leicester Special Collections site http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/ in the South Wales & Monmouthshire directory 1907 and the Cardiff Newport & District Trades directory 1914, but can't find a matchable name in Aberbargoed.

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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 October 19 01:18 GMT (UK) »
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Buzzahock

Brodziak?

There is an Edmund Brodziak b abt 1914, perhaps a bit young? He marries 1950 Bedwelty and dies 1987 Merthyr Tidfil

Address 5 Ruth Street Bargoed

Other surname possibilities in the area are

Bostock
Beaverstock
Bowtidek
Bradstock
Broadstock

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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 October 19 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at this marriage?

1949 Cardiff

George F C Young and Violet Everson

In case relevant, this man is George Fred Campbell Young b Cardiff 27 Mar 1907, died 1977 S. Glamorgan.

One possible death for Violet Young bc 1906 is Dec qtr 1954 Cardiff, aged 48.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maybe a long shot
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 October 19 09:24 GMT (UK) »
It’s possible that Vincent was still with his mother in 1939 - you might consider supplying evidence of death to get him unredacted in the 1939 Register.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)