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The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« on: Sunday 03 November 19 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello all.

My mother has a DNA match whose tree is... interesting to say the least. He has claimed two common ancestral pairs with me, neither of whom appear to actually be related to him.

One of these individuals is fairly easily traced and disproved. The other is not. When asked how he got the link between his ancestor and mine he was completely unable to offer any explanation and seemed very confused.

I don't really like criticising someone else's tree without offering some alternative theory for them to follow. In the case of this woman, I have no idea where her line comes from at all.

The individual is Ann COOPER (in his tree as Mary Ann COOPER, but I've seen no record to add the Mary) 1831 Hasland, Derbyshire.
She married Levi ORWIN 25th January 1851, Chesterfield. Her father was Joseph COOPER, an ironstone miner. One of the witnesses was a Samuel COOPER (the other John COWLEY). Abode for both is Tapton.

I have not yet been able to find an obvious Joseph on the 1851, nor an obvious christening. Looking at other trees that have the couple, nobody else has been able to either.

I wondered if the eagle-eyed and sharp witted folks of RC might have better luck.

Thanks in advance,
Ayashi

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 November 19 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Have you got Ann on the 1841 census?

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 November 19 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately not. I can't see any with a father of Joseph and the only one with residence Hasland has father John. John is an ironstone miner but I'm sure many of them were!

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 November 19 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Is it her married sister Lydia she is living with in 1851?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDD-ZJ1

Do you have names of her siblings and mother?

Added: Daughter of Lydia

HENDERSON, MARY mmn COOPER 
GRO Reference: 1850  S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY  Volume 19  Page 508

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 November 19 02:21 GMT (UK) »
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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 November 19 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Baptism, Chesterfield, St Mary & All Saints

26 Sept 1830

Anne daughter of a Joseph and Elizabeth Cooper, Hasland, Labourer

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 November 19 07:20 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage, same church. May or may not be relevant of course.

30 Dec 1828  of Joseph COOPER and Elizabeth MILLS

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 November 19 07:28 GMT (UK) »
Burial, Same church

16 Sept 1831 Elizabeth Cooper age 24 of Hasland

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Re: The mysterious Ann COOPER 1831 Hasland
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 November 19 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Lydia HENDERSON nee COOPER b about 1820  may be the 24 Dec 1820 baptism at same church of
Lydia COOPER dau of William COOPER & Betty  of Hasland, labourer

Hypothesis - Joseph and William were brothers/cousins?
Perhaps Betty took the motherless Ann in?
Should you be looking for Ann in household of William and Betty?