Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker

[hookleg]

Thanks so much everyone for some excellent detective work. You have solved the initial question, but left me with a lot of scraping around with the extra clues in Birmingham etc. Always the way when researching 'the twigs on the twigs' of the tree. What would we all do without wonderful people like yourselves to help us with our research. Really grateful.

[cuffie81]

As an aside, there's an interesting story about Lily Lee.

Coronation Velvet 1937
- Messrs Warner and Sons, Braintree, silk mill
- commissioned to weave 41 yards of silk velvet, at Braintree, for Coronation robes
- to be worn by Duchess of York, Duchess of Kent and Duchess of Gloucester
- weaving entrusted to Miss Lily Lee, an expert silk weaver
- who will weave velvet on a hand loom at Braintree
- also helping Miss Lee are 3 sets of twins, all members of families of silk weavers migrated from Bethnal Green
- the velvet is described as "a work of art in the silk maker's craft"
- Miss Lee proved worthy of the honour of producing the superb material
- Miss Lee and Mr Sam Watson, who wove the velvet, received tickets for seats in Parliament Sq to view Coronation procession

References:
04 Dec 1936 Chelmsford Chronicle
05 Dec 1936 Essex Newsman
22 Jan 1937 Chelmsford Chronicle
07 May 1937 Chelmsford Chronicle
14 May 1937 Chelmsford Chronicle


Coronation Velvet 1953
- Warner and Sons, Braintree
- commissioned to weave 30 yards of velvet for Coronation
- 21 yards for robes and rest for "record purposes"
- weavers are:
- Miss Lily Lee, 30 years a weaver, joined firm in 1920
- Mrs Hilda Carver, joined form in 1914
- using hand looms
- takes Miss Lee 1 week to make 3 yards

References:
23 Jul 1952 Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail
02 Oct 1952 Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail [photo of Lily with velvet]
19 Nov 1952 Western Mail
19 Nov 1952 Birmingham Daily Gazette
29 Nov 1952 Illustrated London News [great set of photos]
05 Feb 1953 Coventry Evening Telegraph

Images:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/mrs-lilly-lee-a-weaver-at-warner-sons-braintree-essex-hand-news-photo/170253483
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1952-Lily-Lee-To-Weave-Purple-Velvet-For-Queens-Coronation-Robe-Braintree-/233262199629

EDITS:
1) Added links to images of Lily (1952/1953)
2) Added info about 1953 Coronation velvet

[avm228]

How lovely! I had never before given a moment’s thought to how velvet is made.

[Annette7]

I suspect that Constance Irene may have been 'adopted' (no official adoption records before 1927 alas).

Records show only one George Lambeth who was a fishmonger - he was bc.1877 Bethnal Green and married an Eliza Jane Dipple in 1904 Bethnal Green.   It doesn't look like the couple had any children of their own.   Eliza died 1933 Billericay, Essex and George swiftly remarries to a Lilian Esther Goodwin at Royston, Herts. in Mar.qtr.1934.   They then moved to Devon for a while and then settled in Leigh on Sea, Essex.   George died 26/1/1965 (probate to Lilian Esther) and Lilian Esther died 1981.

Since George and Eliza appear to have been together until her death in Billericay in 1933, and with no apparent children of their own, it looks like Constance Irene was probably adopted by them.  However, with no adoption records available it is unknown as to her surname at birth and where exactly she was born.

Annette 

[Jamjar]

Birth of Derek, maybe?:

March 1920 Cosford 4a 2224
Barker Derek M mmn Mason   


Parents marriage:

Jun 1913 Stow.S. 4a 1599   
Barker Bertie M
Mason Bessie E

Birth:

BARKER, BERTIE  MALTBY mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 740

Folks marriage:

Dec 1874 Mile End 1c 1049   
BARKER Charles
COBB Elizabeth Ann

Siblings:

BARKER, AMBROSE  CHARLES mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 562  Occasional Copy: A

BARKER, REGINALD ORSBOURNE mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 614

BARKER, GASPARD  ORSBOURN mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 664 - died 1895

BARKER, ELIZABETH mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 633

BARKER, CYRIL  LEONARD mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 753

BARKER, LILY  MAY mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 828

BARKER, MALTBY  FRANK mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1893  D Quarter in STOW  Volume 04A  Page 743

1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-L9G2

1901 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV3-9QX and maybe, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVS-NTW and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9HP-52S

I can’t find the family on the 1891 census.

Deaths, maybe:

Sep 1921 Cosford 4a 756
Barker Bertie M 33

Dec 1964 Southend 4A 823
Barker Bessie E 80   

Sibling:

BARKER, MERCIA  BESSIE mmn MASON 
GRO Reference: 1914  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 1739

Why is this registered twice in different years?:

Mar 1939 Westminster 1a 818
Barker Mercia B
Phillips Sidney

Sep 1941 Chelmsford 4a 2175
Barker Mercia B
Phillips Sidney

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

COBB, CLARA mmn READ 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in GUILTCROSS UNION  Volume 13  Page 185
COBB, ELIZABETH  ANN mmn READ 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in GUILTCROSS  Volume 04B  Page 255

Elizabeth Cobb on the 1861 census. Parents are Coleby and Elizabeth: I haven’t been able to connect the ORSBOURNE or MALTBY:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7F6-DXH

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7F6-DX8

Folk’s marriage:

Dec 1842 Guiltcross 13 418
COBB Coleby George
READ Elizabeth       

Think I have the Orsbourne:

BARKER, CHARLES mmn ORSBORNE 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in STOW UNION  Volume 12  Page 485

His family on the 1851 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRF-NH3

Marriage:

Dec 1837 Stow 12 799
BARKER William   
ORSBOURN Eliza

Jamjar

[hookleg]

Thanks again to everyone for some wonderful help with this piece of family research.
On a totally different tack, interesting to see avm228 has family research from Pebmarsh, Essex. A relative of mine, Robert John Cockrill, was a farm bailiff at Brompton's Farm in the village before being murdered and decapitated by Samuel Bentall Collis in 1896. Collis ended up in Broadmoor.