Richard Varey married Ellen Miller 1845 Ashton/Oldham

[Jamjar]

1851? Spouse is Ann

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYT-4WJ

I can’t see births on GRO for this lot.

Jamjar

[heywood]

I think I have seen Skelton written somewhere - here is a Richard Vairy in 1841 in that area
He is 20 yrs and there is William 15yrs too.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ53-B2W

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I think there are two different Skeltons  so perhaps not this one.

[heywood]

I think I have seen Skelton written somewhere - here is a Richard Vairy in 1841 in that area
He is 20 yrs and there is William 15yrs too.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ53-B2W

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I think there are two different Skeltons  so perhaps not this one.

Not this Richard. Richard and William are with parents George and Mary at 1851 2353 /85/1
Skelton, Yorkshire

[squawki11]

Thanks to all for the many & varied replies.

I posted in Westmorland because, simply, I had to start somewhere.

Despite ranging far & wide, I have yet to find any information regarding Richard Varey's father's occupation but I could hazard a guess, "Earthenware Dealer" as were many associated families.

The marriage taking place in 1845, Oldham, took me to OPC info, but it only confirmed "Banns" and no more.

All 4 children that are with Widow Ellen Varey in 1861 have a mishmash of "Varey" surnames but mmn is Miller according to GRO records but census returns do not always have birth dates in accord. They all appear to have survived, with Grace & William married.

David Varey (nephew) having mmn Derbyshire may be a clue since a Mary Ann Derbyshire married a James Varey in 1843 and had a son David born 1857, St Helens. That appears to lead to a William Varey, 1789 (Skerton) - 1861 (Preston), who may have had a wife, Grace, about whom I have yet to find any info.

It would be too easy just to pass the difficulty of establishing connections and accept that Richard's parents are William & Grace...my preference being for some supporting evidence.

[rosie99]

LancashireBMD has the marriage as taking place at St Mary's Oldham.  Ancestry has the images for this parish up to the first week of October 1845, banns are called for that marriage after that date.

Maybe your only supporting evidence for his father would be to purchase the marriage certificate of Richard

[KGarrad]

All 4 children that are with Widow Ellen Varey in 1861 have a mishmash of "Varey" surnames but mmn is Miller according to GRO records but census returns do not always have birth dates in accord.

Census returns never show birth dates
They show ages of the people - that is, ages they admitted to!

Except, of course, for the 1841 census where the instructions were to round down to a multiple of 5 years for all adults (i.e. those aged over 15).

[heywood]

There are various marriages with Richard Varey, father, Hawker.

1858 St Chad’s Rochdale
John Aspinall and Jane Varey, 19 yrs father Richard, Hawker
A witness is Ann Varey

1871 St James Oldham
Charles Miller and Christina Varey, 19yrs of Smith’s Yard. Father Richard Hawker.
Witnesses Enoch Varey and Grace Varey

1890 Bolton
James Thompson and Grace Varey widow  - father Richard Varey, Hawker (deceased)
A witness is Christiana Allen (just in case she is related)

I have seen Charles Miller on a census with some  Vareys but can’t find it now 

[heywood]

Buried with Richard in Oldham is Joseph.

There is a Joseph, 31 yrs  Earthenware Dealer  b Lancaster at 1851 2442 /142/12

His son Jacob Varey 22 yrs married Ann Miller 18yrs at St James, Oldham in 1866.
Both are Earthenware Dealers and of Bleasby Street.
Fathers Joseph Varey and Charles Miller are also E Ds.

[squawki11]

Thank you Rosie, for the suggestion to purchase death records, for both Richard & William the putative father. Shame they're unlikely to give much detail about wife/wives. Of course I'd have to be more precise about dates/ages or I might well purchase quite the wrong records. It's good to know there are folk reading my somewhat vague & imprecise postings. Must do better.