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21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« on: Friday 15 November 19 19:12 GMT (UK) »
I have traced my 4x great grandfather (Thomas Deaves Born 1797 to 1861 his wife Sarah Cartwright born 1798 to 1872 and their 8 children ) to 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool, in a trade directory Thomas is listed as a shoe and bootmaker , would anyone have an pictures or maps of this address or any info on Thomas Deaves.

I have now drawn a total blank on him and cannot get back any further, I have managed to keep going back with his wife but it’s thomas that I’m interested in

Thank you

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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 November 19 21:52 GMT (UK) »
would anyone have an pictures or maps of this address

You can see the 1891 Town Plan of Bevington Bush at  https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/334765/391369/13/100871
Change the zoom level as necessary

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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 November 19 01:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I can’t be much help but when he married Sarah in Shrewsbury there was an Edward DEAVES witnessing the marriage.

A brother perhaps ? Or at least a relation.

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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 November 19 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Claire that’s super, do you have a picture of the source so I can put it on ancestry? I had a snapshot of the marriage details but it doesn’t include any witness details.


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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 November 19 07:09 GMT (UK) »
by coincidence were his parents also Thomas and Sarah ?
I wonder if this is 2 of Thomas Deaves b 1797 siblings - Thomas is a Cordwainer = shoe and bootmaker
Baptism: 26 Oct 1794 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Deaves - Daughter of Thomas Deaves & Sarah
    Born: 10 Feb 1794
    Abode: Pitt St
    Occupation: Cordwainer
    Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1799, Page 36, Entry 2
    Source: LDS Film 1656377

Baptism: 7 Sep 1795 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Frederick Deaves - Son of Thomas Deaves & Sarah (formerly Oddie), his 2nd Wife
    Born: 18 Aug
    Abode: Paradise Street
    Occupation: Cordwainer
    Seniority: 1
    Parents Married: Christ Church, London...
a stab in the dark but maybe worth making a note of ??
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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 November 19 07:14 GMT (UK) »
The only couple I had managed to find were a Thomas & Sarah Deaves baptising children in Shrewsbury from about c1800. I couldn’t spot a marriage but the one in London looks good. The son Edward was a publican in London who went bankrupt from a newspaper article I spotted.

EDIT: There is a Mary Ann Deaves in the Shrewsbury register too - witnessing a marriage.

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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 November 19 15:30 GMT (UK) »
I have traced my 4x great grandfather (Thomas Deaves Born 1797 to 1861 his wife Sarah Cartwright born 1798 to 1872 and their 8 children ) to 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool, in a trade directory Thomas is listed as a shoe and bootmaker , would anyone have an pictures or maps of this address or any info on Thomas Deaves.

I have now drawn a total blank on him and cannot get back any further, I have managed to keep going back with his wife but it’s thomas that I’m interested in

Thank you

The address is actually 21 Bevington Bush Road not 21 Bevington Bush these are two different locations close to each other. For reference here is the 1821 Gore's Directory record image and an 1836 map:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJD-HPWZ?cat=384709

https://historic-liverpool.co.uk/old-maps-of-liverpool/1836-ma-gages-trigonometrical-plan-of-liverpool/#6/75.175/-100.184


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Re: 21 Bevington Bush Liverpool 1821
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 October 23 18:56 BST (UK) »
Would anyone be able to shed some light on my ancestors first wife?

Here’s an excerpt from baptism records which mentions Sarah Oddie is his 2nd wife.

My limited knowledge research suggests first wife was

Thomas Deaves born 1759 died 1832
First wife? Sarah Green born 1732 died 1789

they were married 10th nov 1788.

Would anyone have a link to a death cert / birth cert?



Baptism: 7 Sep 1795 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancs.
Richard Frederick Deaves - Son of Thomas Deaves & Sarah (formerly Oddie), his 2nd Wife
    Born: 18 Aug
    Abode: Paradise Street
    Occupation: Cordwainer
    Seniority: 1
    Parents' Marital Status: Christ Church, London
    Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1795, Page 342, Entry 787
    Source: LDS Film 93833