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Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« on: Saturday 16 November 19 20:24 GMT (UK) »
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I am trying to establish who are the parents of the second group of Elcocks.  Francys died in 1591 so they aren't hers and Henrys.  Did he remarry, I haven't found another marriage for him but it does seem likely.

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1560 RAYNOLES
Francys Raynoles wife of Henry Elcock of Har’ (Hardwick), mother of Francis Elcocke     
b.1559C All Saints, Claverley, East Shropshire, Eng.
m.1580 Dec 11 Henry Elcocke, All Saints, Claverley, East Shropshire, Eng.                           (I)
d.1591 Mar 21 St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
Children 5
1583 May 5-1583 Aug 24 Humphrey Elcock, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1584 Jul 22 William Elcock, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng. m.1610 Aug 19 Margery Mansell her death 1604 Jan 7
1585 Feb 14 Francis Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1588 Nov 1 John Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1591 Mar 13 Margaret Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.  c.1617 May 1 James base s. Margaret Elcocke Bap Elcock

WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF THESE PEOPLE?
1602 Sep 12 Alice Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1604 Feb 4 Lancelot Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1607 Nov 24 William Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1610 Aug 26 Henry Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1612 Dec 28 Margery Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1615 Oct 8 Robbart Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1618 Apr 6 John Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.
1620 Nov 27 Elinor Elcocke, St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.

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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Name:                                               Lancelet Elcocke
Gender:    
Christening Date:    
Christening Date (Original):    
Christening Place:    as you have it feb 4th 1604 - Alveley ,Shrops - but it has fathers name
Father's Name     ....    Henry

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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks this is really interesting, his wife died in
d.1591 Mar 21 St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.  not long after their last child was born.

I have searched for a second wife to no avail.  But assume there must be one....?

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Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh


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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Henry Elcock baptised 24th feb 1576  Alveley - father Lancelot ....so that Henry looks to be their father - but I can't find a marriage ????
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks this is really interesting, his wife died in
d.1591 Mar 21 St Mary, Alveley, Severn Valley, Shropshire, Eng.  not long after their last child was born.

I have searched for a second wife to no avail.  But assume there must be one....?

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Bronwen

how far is Hallow , Worcester from Alveley , Shropshire
marriage of Henry Elcock to Johane Archard - 10th Feb 1592
I will check the distance on AARoutesplanner
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20MILES from Hallow to Alveley so that marriage is a possible - I wonder if there are any baptisms in Hallow from 1592-1602 ?
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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 09:06 GMT (UK) »
I don't understand this that you wrote:
(Henry Elcock baptised 24th feb 1576  Alveley - father Lancelot ....so that Henry looks to be their father - but I can't find a marriage)

Henry married in 1580 so that can't be him.  I have never managed to ascertain his exact birth at all, but somehow I understood he was born in Claverley.

Henry Elcock of Har’ (Hardwick) husband of Francis Raynoles
b.1555C All Saints, Claverley, East Shropshire, Eng.
m.1580 Dec 11 Francis Raynoles/Reynolds, All Saints, Claverley, East Shropshire, Eng.   (I)
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Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh

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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 09:08 GMT (UK) »
I will look into the possibility of children born in Hallow, sounds sensible!

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Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh

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Re: Alveley, Elcock/e who are the parents of the children 1602-1620
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 09:12 GMT (UK) »
can't find any born Hallow  :-\

it is quite possible there are TWO Henry Elcocks having children in Alveley 10 years apart  ???
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