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What happened to Cooper?
« on: Monday 18 November 19 17:36 GMT (UK) »
I have talked about Cooper Smith in an earlier thread but I think he now deserves one of his own. I have lost him, after 1861!

Cooper Smith, born July 1847, Sunderland ( Monkwearmouth), son of Thomas Smith and Sarah Cooper.
He is with his family in 1861 but after that he disappears without trace. I can find no marriage or death record for him, nor does he appear on any later censuses. I wonder if he emigrated - there is a record of a Cooper Smith on a crossing to Australia but I don't have that level of subscription to Ancestry so can't check it out!!

Cooper is the only one of his siblings, including my 2 x great-grandmother, Mary-Ann, to have an uncommon given name - I can't face the prospect of trying to track the progress of any more William/John/Thomas/Sarah Smiths so I have opted for Cooper but he has gone! I had a short-lived moment of hope when I found a Cooper Smith of roughly the right age, marrying and dying in Norfolk but sadly it's not my man!

If anyone can help me to find him, even if it's just to tell me that he died in 1862, I'd be more than grateful.

Many thanks,

Jen :)
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 November 19 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Posting link to another post today in case anybody thinks they have found him.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=821688.msg6843758#msg6843758
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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 November 19 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Posting link to another post today in case anybody thinks they have found him.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=821688.msg6843758#msg6843758

Thanks Carole. I have sort of covered this post in my opening query but I guess it makes sense to link the two! I don't know what I have done in life to deserve so many damned Smiths!!! ;D
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:16 GMT (UK) »
There is a seaman called Cooper Smith aged 27 sailing from Hobart, Tasmania to Sydney on the vessel 'Fairy Rock' arriving 27th August 1874. Under nationality it says 'London'  ::).

There is the death of a 27 year old Cooper Smith born England on the 4th November 1874 in Tasmania. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9CH-WWK6?i=268&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ27M-B939
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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a seaman called Cooper Smith aged 27 sailing from Hobart, Tasmania to Sydney on the vessel 'Fairy Rock' arriving 27th August 1874. Under nationality it says 'London'  ::).

There is the death of a 27 year old Cooper Smith born England on the 4th November 1874 in Tasmania. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9CH-WWK6?i=268&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ27M-B939

There is also a possible marriage in 1872 in Tasmania but I can't get at the records. I've just asked if any my friends in Australia can help.
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SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:32 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is on Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9CH-4VMG?i=98&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ279-7PR7
I'm not sure it's the same chap - he's an engineer, the other one was a seaman.
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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:36 GMT (UK) »
The marriage is on Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9CH-4VMG?i=98&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ279-7PR7
I'm not sure it's the same chap - he's an engineer, the other one was a seaman.

However, this couple had a child in 1874 and the father's occupation is seaman.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9CH-CKKD?i=66&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ27M-C1H6

It is the same chap as the one who died, the address is the same, Arthur Street.
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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:54 GMT (UK) »
 The links don't work for me!!! Does the marriage give the name of Cooper's father?
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: What happened to Cooper?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 November 19 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Are you registered with Family Search? If not perhaps that's why they don't work  :-\
Sadly there was no provision for a father's name on the marriage cert.

You could try a search on Trove to see if there was anything in the newspapers. You can limit the search by place and date. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
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