Recent DNA from Southern Asia in an Old American Family

[melba_schmelba]

From Melba's reply, I'm thinking that I may need to look through records of "British" ancestry and thank you so much for the link, btw!

As you say you have French, Dutch and Portuguese ancestry, it could equally be via those lines. Soldiers, sailors, merchants and civil servants would often take common law wives in India/Sri Lanka and other parts of South East Asia. They and their children will often be provided for in the men's wills even though they weren't officially married.

[Nahua]

Thank you, I will also check into the French, Dutch and Iberian ancestors.

And yes, I'm happy with my choice. I tested with four companies and three out of the four say that I'm European mixed with Native American and Asian with traces of Africa. Three out of four agree on those findings and one of them is 23andMe and GEDmatch, no matter which calculator I use, concurs.  So, I'm fairly certain as to my ancestry (I also have a paper trail and used it to apply and be accepted into a Native American tribe.) So, my Native American ancestry is established without question, as is my European ancestry. I've got ancestors from all over Europe, but the Punjabi simply intrigued me, because I didn't expect it.

[Nahua]

Also, thanks to everyone who responded. I now have information that I didn't previously have about the French, Dutch and Portuguese. I hadn't considered them as a possible source!

[melba_schmelba]

Also, thanks to everyone who responded. I now have information that I didn't previously have about the French, Dutch and Portuguese. I hadn't considered them as a possible source!

You're welcome. You didn't confirm what your South Asian percentage was for the Eurogenes K13 and K15 admixture calculators on GEDMATCH? I would be interested to compare to my own as I think I may also have an Indian ancestor.

[Nahua]

On EuroK13 it was .52 Pct for South Asia and 3.85 pct for West Asia,

and on K15 it was 2.51 pct with 5.62 pct for Eastern Europe.

Perhaps, it is just a misread and time will tell, I suppose. Perhaps, I don't have an Asian ancestor but if I do, I'd like to find him or her.

[melba_schmelba]

On EuroK13 it was .52 Pct for South Asia and 3.85 pct for West Asia,

and on K15 it was 2.51 pct with 5.62 pct for Eastern Europe.

Perhaps, it is just a misread and time will tell, I suppose. Perhaps, I don't have an Asian ancestor but if I do, I'd like to find him or her.

That is strange you have a lower South Asian on K13 than Eutest v2 k15, as in my experience K13 is always higher. You can see population averages for the two calculators here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oz6P5-SVEJciPX1TciGe-zoqA5JtOGIMG7nh-rCOj0c/edit#gid=804264822 K13

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/edit#gid=1872836177 K15

If you meant 0.52% South Asian on K13, that is very low, and would represent the average South Asian of a Norwegian. You should also not take this to mean indication of recent ancestry, as many of these markers likely simply show common Indo-European ancestry going back thousands of years from the Yamnaya Steppe herders who brought the Indo European languages into western Europe from 3000-2500BC, and others spread east into what is now the Indian subcontinent. Most modern Indians have some Melanesian blood, which were peoples similar to the Andamanese peoples who lived in southern India before the Indo-European influx. You can test for that on the MDLP World 22 calculator.

[Nahua]

Melanesian .79
Autronesian 1.99
Indo-Iranian 1.91
Near East 2.51

[melba_schmelba]

Melanesian .79
Autronesian 1.99
Indo-Iranian 1.91
Near East 2.51

OK, according to my own survey, any Melanesian is unusual for someone of European descent, and you have about double that of my father. Your level of Austronesian is very unusual - to me this indicates you may have a Malay ancestor, as Malays are a mixture of Indian ancestry and Austronesian peoples. Both the Portuguese and the Dutch had colonies in what is now Malaysia. But I think the 1900 date that one website quoted for you is highly inaccurate - we are more likely talking early 19th or late 18th century.

[Nahua]

Melanesian .79
Autronesian 1.99
Indo-Iranian 1.91
Near East 2.51

OK, according to my own survey, any Melanesian is unusual for someone of European descent, and you have about double that of my father. Your level of Austronesian is very unusual - to me this indicates you may have a Malay ancestor, as Malays are a mixture of Indian ancestry and Austronesian peoples. Both the Portuguese and the Dutch had colonies in what is now Malaysia. But I think the 1900 date that one website quoted for you is highly inaccurate - we are more likely talking early 19th or late 18th century.

Oh, thank you so much for helping me unravel this. What you say makes sense. I think the timeline may be off as well and the early 19th or late 18th century fits more in line with my paper trail of Dutch ancestry. I will look back and find the name of the Dutch ancestors from the late 1700s and early 1800s. NOW, it's starting to make sense to me. I couldn't figure where the "India' component or the Melaysian/Austronesian components were coming from.