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Re: John reed
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 13:50 GMT (UK) »
thanks Rosie
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Her birthdate was on the baptism image.  There is no birthdate on the one for John
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Re: John reed
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 January 20 12:29 GMT (UK) »
The two John Reeds you have could very well be the same person. There is no record of a baptism for him in 1888 but there is one for 1892. It was quite common for a child to be baptised some time after the birth. If that is the case the dates are as follows:
St Andrew's church, Deal.
18/1/1892 John Reed                s/o John & Sarah Reed      Labourer  8, West Street
13/1/1894  Mary Ann Read  (born 7/1/1894)                     Labourer  Western Road
  1/1/1896  Phoebe Read                                                  Labourer  Western Road 
  7/4/1909  Sarah Ann Read  (born 24/3/1909)                  Dealer   153, High Street
Hope this is of some small help
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Re: John reed
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 January 20 01:34 GMT (UK) »
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Thank you.  I think we were thinking along the sane lines but it can be quite mind boggling when a birth is registered some time after the actual birth.   :)

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The two John Reeds you have could very well be the same person. There is no record of a baptism for him in 1888 but there is one for 1892. It was quite common for a child to be baptised some time after the birth. If that is the case the dates are as follows:
St Andrew's church, Deal.
18/1/1892 John Reed                s/o John & Sarah Reed      Labourer  8, West Street
13/1/1894  Mary Ann Read  (born 7/1/1894)                     Labourer  Western Road
  1/1/1896  Phoebe Read                                                  Labourer  Western Road 
  7/4/1909  Sarah Ann Read  (born 24/3/1909)                  Dealer   153, High Street
Hope this is of some small help
AJ
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Re: John reed
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 January 20 01:59 GMT (UK) »
....... it can be quite mind boggling when a birth is registered some time after the actual birth.

Where are you seeing a birth registration?

The 1911 census shows John as aged 19, so born c1892.  The parents appear to have married in 1891.

Debra  :)


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Re: John reed
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 January 20 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Sarah's birth:

Sarah Ann Reed  mmn Marsh
GRO Reference: 1909  January Quarter in Eastry  02A  1109

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Re: John reed
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 January 20 10:14 GMT (UK) »
William Reed and phoebe Marsh?

....... it can be quite mind boggling when a birth is registered some time after the actual birth.

Where are you seeing a birth registration?

The 1911 census shows John as aged 19, so born c1892.  The parents appear to have married in 1891.

Debra  :)

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Re: John reed
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 January 20 10:16 GMT (UK) »
John Reed
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   19 Jan 1892
Baptism Place:   St. Andrew's Church, Deal, Kent, England
Father:   John Reed
Mother:   Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number:   1786326
Reference ID:   

Baptism record

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William Reed and phoebe Marsh?

....... it can be quite mind boggling when a birth is registered some time after the actual birth.

Where are you seeing a birth registration?

The 1911 census shows John as aged 19, so born c1892.  The parents appear to have married in 1891.

Debra  :)
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Re: John reed
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 January 20 12:41 GMT (UK) »
John Reed
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   19 Jan 1892
Baptism Place:   St. Andrew's Church, Deal, Kent, England
Father:   John Reed
Mother:   Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number:   1786326
Reference ID:   

What you mean is that you think he was baptised, not registered, some time after his birth.  This John REED was born in 1892 0r late 1891, his parents have no children with them on the 1891 census.  He was quite a bit younger than Beatrice so has probably just altered his birth year to close the gap a little.

Debra  :)

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Re: John reed
« Reply #17 on: Monday 13 January 20 13:22 GMT (UK) »
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Yes your correct and most likely right re age gap.  I believe John was the eldest child, followed by phoebe reed 1895 and Sarah Reed 1909. 

I've had trouble identifying Sarah Ann Marsh 1873, John reeds partner.  her mother's maiden name is Saville.  A phoebe Saville married a William Marsh and they had Sarah Ann Marsh 1873
 NameSarah Ann Marsh
Registration Year1873
Registration QuarterApr-May-Jun
Registration district Eastry which covers Deal, kent
Volume2aPage784.  Found the 1891, 1911 and 1939 census for Sarah Ann Marsh but on the 1881 census her name is down as Sally which has completely thrown me.

I checked the gro for Sarah Ann Marsh 1873 and all that adds up with phoebe Saville mmn and 1873 birth registered.  All details of 1911 and 1939 census match up.  Unsure of her parents info at the moment as I am of John reed 1872.  All I have so far is his dad was William Reed.

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John Reed
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   19 Jan 1892
Baptism Place:   St. Andrew's Church, Deal, Kent, England
Father:   John Reed
Mother:   Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number:   1786326
Reference ID:   

What you mean is that you think he was baptised, not registered, some time after his birth.  This John REED was born in 1892 0r late 1891, his parents have no children with them on the 1891 census.  He was quite a bit younger than Beatrice so has probably just altered his birth year to close the gap a little.

Debra  :)
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