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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 14:32 GMT (UK) »
We imagined he had to provide a birth cert but todays church secretary told us it wasnt church policy back then to hold on to them.

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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 15:05 GMT (UK) »

They don't keep them but I reckon he had to provide some sort of documentation be it Birth Cert or letter from Church where he was Baptized as Alfred Oneill.

IF his mother went to her sister....what Church or Reg Office was there?


Sister in England might be worth investigating??


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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Given all that has been said, and using FreeBMD, one interesting birth that could be looked at is
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=bgpPPfP5sbsaET1Ho7i3kw&scan=1

Some posters here seem to be able to lookup English birth registrations, but I have no idea how.
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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Think this may be that same boy?
Deaths Sep 1922   
Morris    Alfred H    5    Birmingham    6d   341   

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Given all that has been said, and using FreeBMD, one interesting birth that could be looked at is
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=bgpPPfP5sbsaET1Ho7i3kw&scan=1

Some posters here seem to be able to lookup English birth registrations, but I have no idea how.


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Re: Complicated man
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
According to a prison report for george william morris when he was arrested in dublin for stealing a coat his family was from birmingham.
 I also found a 1911 census in birmingham for a mary kate edwards from wexford but i cant say for sure if this is annies sister or not.

Ronan,
I canít see the 1911 entry for Mary Kate. Is her name transcribed in  full?
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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 January 20 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks eveybody for the help. Unfortunitely that alfred seems to have died in 1922 so thats not him.
 I believe her name may have been recorded as kate edwards in 1911.
The only guaranteed mention we have of mary kate is her birth and baptizimal, after that she disappeared but the 1911 irish census states her parents had 8 living children meaning she was still alive and older relatives use to talk about her and its believed she lived in england.
 The registry office i believe was in birmingham and its simply called the birmingham registry office.

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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 11 January 20 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Annie and George Morris marriage on church records. George dad was called George he was a Grocer, Annie dad was called John Edwards and he was a River Bailfiff.

William birth 1898 is on church records

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie

George Morris death in 5.4.1900 at Newcastle KawaZulu-natal Service No. 3214 he was a Private 13th Hussars

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Re: Complicated man - Alfred Morris or Alfred Oneill or Alphonsus not Alfred
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 11 January 20 12:57 GMT (UK) »
I already had that information but thank you for taking the time to look, i appreciate it.