please help marriage lookup request

[indigo78]

Could well be him.
I really dont know where i could find out frances Maiden name without being able to find a marriage certificate.

[IgorStrav]

Well, as I'm sure you've probably thought yourself, maybe they didn't marry.

I am just looking on FindMyPast for births in Northam (reg Bideford, I should think) in 1868/9 for girls called Frances E or something which might be her.

You might have to find a few possibles there, and then follow them all through to see if any 'vanish' from records.
Even then this will only be a guess at your mysterious Frances Emilie. 

Very sad not to have had children, which would have led to GRO records of Mother's Maiden Name to pin her down.

[indigo78]

Thank you so much for your time

[IgorStrav]

Have you checked out the Amy Bowden shown as visitor with them on the 1901?  She's also from Northam.

And I see that they are at the same address in Chelsea I saw Joseph in the 1891.

I would think that Joseph must have met the mysterious Frances (or Fanny, don't forget) Emelie (or possibly Amelia) in London.

There are still some angles to search!

[IgorStrav]

Aha, as I've now found Fanny Amelia Bowden MMN Burden and made a note on Ancestry, I can see you have indeed researched her and she's on a family tree you've made! 


Added:  have you been through the Northam 1891 census in detail, when Fanny Amelia is living there with her grandparents, to see whether the mysterious Frances E, who 'married' Joseph William Chitty and whom she is visiting in the 1901, is anywhere living close by?

If you've not turned up the link between the Bowden/Burdens and Frances Emelie, perhaps they were neighbours?

Added again - if I were you, I'd research ALL the children of Fanny Amelia Bowden's grandparents, her siblings etc., as it may be she is a cousin of Frances E......

[indigo78]

Yes Fanny Amelia Bowden is my great grandmother. she was indeed visiting the chitty's at that time and later in 1917 when she married my great grandfather she was stated as living at the time of her marriage at The coach and horses a pub in chertsy Surrey which was where Thomas Chitty and frances were the pub landlords at the time.
I'm trying to trace the connection if there is one between fanny Amelia Bowden and Frances. As they were both born in Northam.

[IgorStrav]

Well the coincidence of the Frances (Fanny) and Emelie (Amelia) is striking - it could very well be that they are if not siblings then cousins.  Looks in the 1891 that there are a number of grandchildren whose parents are worthwhile following up.

I'll have a little look at them all

[jonw65]

A Frances Burdon, 24, born Northam, in Chelsea in 1891. Servant
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3YQS-TT2

Or Francis Burdan on ancestry. Piece 63 folio 74 page 12

[IgorStrav]

A Frances Burdon, 24, born Northam, in Chelsea in 1891. Servant
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3YQS-TT2

Or Francis Burdan on ancestry. Piece 63 folio 74 page 12

That looks promising, Jon

I'm going through the Burdon family in Northam and Devon generally.  Lots of children, and I'm convinced that the missing woman will be one of the cousins somewhere....


Added some time later.......
not found her yet