Looking for Robert Patterson's (m. 1813 Newcastle) birth and parents

[River Tyne Lass]

Following on from my post 26 today .. I have also checked the Christ Church inscriptions but there is only one for a Robert Patterson who died on 14 May 1849.  This one had a wife called Catherine who died on 26 July 1827 .. several others listed too on same grave inscription .. they were late of Chirton.  This Robert was 63 at death and wife Catherine was 34.

[teach3r]

There are three Robert Pattersons buried 1832 listed in the Tynemouth Deanery volume:

Tynemouth: 6 March 1832
Address: Coble Dean
Age 81

Tynemouth:  6 May 1832
Address: Chirton
Age 45

Wallsend: 22.9.1832
Address: Howdon Panns
Age 11

Also there were earlier Roberts:

Wallsend: 29 July 1818
Address: Willington
Age: 66

Tynemouth: 31 December 1822
Address: Chirton
Age 60

Although, I am not able to look at the actual burial registers just now, I think the Tynemouth burials may relate to Christ Church and the Wallsend to St Peter's Church.

Thank you - I have Robert living in Ouse Burn in 1814 when he got married and from what I can see all of the locations you have kindly found are within 5-7 miles of there.  I also know that he must have died between 1827 (last child I have recorded) and 1841 (when his wife is living with their son).

Of the ones you have found, "Tynemouth:  6 May 1832 Address: Chirton Age 45" seems the best possibility as that Robert would have been born about 1787 and married at about 26 years old.  I am not sure of the chances of the family moving from Ouse Burn to Chirton, however, in 1841 they were in Hull.

Hmm - what to do next?   

[jonw65]

Hi

On FindMyPast the entry on the transcription for Spouse's last name is "Eleanor or Elizabeth"

They have the marriage in "Northumberland Marriages", 22 March 1813, All Saints, Newcastle, Robert Patterson + Eleanor Dunn.
I think the "Eleanor or Elizabeth" comes from "England Marriages 1538-1973", which is a FamilySearch database that is also on ancestry and findmypast.

Hi Jonw65, does this mean that the 40 on the 1841 census should be 4 and does that bring in the possibility that Sarah Jane and Mary Ann are twins?

I presume it is a mistake of some kind. Only have the baptism of Sarah Jane, 6 May 1837, Hull, as already given. Have you found baptisms/birth registrations of the other children?

Could you tell me where you got this one from please?

That is from "Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857", on the website you mentioned in Reply #22.

Add in another death/burial to the collection!
Robert Pattison, 19 January 1832, Durham St. Margaret. Age 48
BT here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q1Q-133?i=468&cc=1309819

Durham County Advertiser,  Friday 20 January 1832
Died
In Framwellgate, on Monday last, Robert Pattison, aged 48.

[teach3r]

I presume it is a mistake of some kind. Only have the baptism of Sarah Jane, 6 May 1837, Hull, as already given. Have you found baptisms/birth registrations of the other children?

In the 1841 census the children shown are:
Sarah Jane, aged 40 (or 4?) born Yorkshire - Christening 06 May 1837 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRQB-QHV
Mary Ann, aged 4 born Yorkshire -
William, aged 1 month, born Yorkshire - baptised 30/11/1840
John, aged 14, born Yorkshire (son of Robert and Eleanor)

I haven't found Mary Ann or John yet.

[jonw65]

In the 1841 census the children shown are:
Sarah Jane, aged 40 (or 4?) born Yorkshire - Christening 06 May 1837 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRQB-QHV
Mary Ann, aged 4 born Yorkshire -
William, aged 1 month, born Yorkshire - baptised 30/11/1840
John, aged 14, born Yorkshire (son of Robert and Eleanor)

It's a bit different in 1851. As we know, William Patterson senior is with his mother and brother on census night, whilst his wife Mary and three children are together elsewhere.
They go
Mary Jane 15
Margaret 13
William 11

So there appears to be another mix up there!

The marriages of the three children may be these ones at Holy Trinity, Hull.
23 Sep 1861, Sarah Jane Patterson, 25, to Thomas Briney, 35, Brickmaker ((witnessed by Mary Ann Patterson)
24 Aug 1864, Mary Ann Patterson, 25, to William Hudson Watkinson, 29, Mariner
25 May 1871, William Patterson, 31, Mariner, to Emily Pettingell Freeman, 26 (witnessed by Mary Ann Watkinson)

All three gave their father as William Patterson, Engineer.
Everybody gave their residence as Osborne Street.

[jonw65]

Death of Mary the mother?
June 1882 Hull 9d 166
Patterson, Mary   
age 64

Buried at Hedon Road, 18 May 1882
Names husband. Gives date of death, residence, cause of death.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-CCXD?i=255&cat=705074

[jonw65]

Graves register!
Section 75 Grave 28 here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNH-Z9Z4-7?i=176&cat=705074

Apparently there are two more buried in the grave with Mary Patterson, struggling to find them in the registers with those numbers.

A Mary Ann Watkinson buried at Hedon Road, 29 March 1926, age 87.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G96P-FSPS?i=686&cat=705074

She is also in Section 75,so on same image as linked to, Grave 41.
And in grave is her husband William Hudson Watkinson, buried 28 May 1905. Informant J Appleyard. Though sometimes this is the undertaker.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996P-FSXR?i=34&cat=705074

Appleyard - the other person in the grave is a George Henry Appleyard, Grocer, who was buried 6 Aug 1926, age 55. Died of Suffocation
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996P-FS6K?i=691&cat=705074

EDIT. Suffocation made me look in the papers
Hull Daily Mail, 3 Aug 1926
Hull Grocers Suicide
Grocer George Henry Appleyard (55), of Day-street was found hanging at his shop in Porter-street yesterday...

[teach3r]

Wow - this keeps getting more mysterious!  Thank you Jonw65.

Although William married Mary Lawton in 1835 I have them separated by 1851 as in an article in an 1856 newspaper it describes an argument on Hull docks and that they had been "separated 5 years". I wonder why she is down as his wife in 1882?

He then has children (Linda (1861), Charles King (1866) and Arthur Barrington (1868)) with Eliza Barley who in his will is described as his Housekeeper but in the 1881 census as his wife (I haven't found evidence that they married).  He then went on to die as the Engineer on board "Milo" in Stettin, Kingdom of Prussia in 1882.

Edit:  The article mentioning William and Mary's separation is from the Hull Packet - Friday 15 August 1856 (Hull Police Court > Monday > A Naughty Tongue  )

[teach3r]

Appleyard - the other person in the grave is a George Henry Appleyard, Grocer, who was buried 6 Aug 1926, age 55. Died of Suffocation
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996P-FS6K?i=691&cat=705074

I wonder how the Appleyards link to the Pattersons (or is it to the Watkinsons) - one for the backburner!