Who might Uncle John Black have been?

[Forfarian]

 

[minniehaha]

I have found this Black - Springfield snippet for 1927......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19270106.2.134.6?end_date=31-12-1948&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=black+springfield&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1885&title=AMBPA%2cAG%2cASHH%2cEG%2cGLOBE%2cLT%2cNCGAZ%2cOO%2cCHP%2cSCANT%2cTS%2cSUNCH%2cTEML%2cTHD%2cWDA


Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Part quote:

"I did try the 1925 register of electors, but there are an awful lot of John Blacks, and they are listed by electoral divisions, and I have yet to discover which of the EDs I don't recognise is where."


Off the top of my head I would try Selwyn or maybe Waimate?

Other Rootschatters may have a better idea or even look for you. 


Minniehaha.

[Forfarian]

Thank you. It seems that Kirwee and Springfield are in Selwyn District. However none of the plain John Blacks, or the John Blacks with a middle name, listed in 1925 is in either Selwyn or Waimate in the electoral roll.

[minniehaha]

Mmmm, that is frustrating.

I think from your first post that we are looking for the farm being in Springfield, rather than Kirwee?

Or is that not how you interpret the note?

"born at Kirwee, mid Canterbury, on the road to Springfield, Uncle John Black's farm."


Minniehaha.

[Forfarian]

I think from your first post that we are looking for the farm being in Springfield, rather than Kirwee.

Yes. Or somewhere along the road from Kirwee to Springfield.

[Tgapitbull]

I have found from the 1914 Selwyn ER a Lytel John Black, Annat, Farmer.  He was there in 1911 and in 1919.
Annat is on the road between Sheffield and Springfield.

TPB

[minniehaha]

Death:

1966/36453   Black   Lytel John   76Y      ??

Added: His birth-

1890/3176   Black   Lyttle John   Rose Kate   James

Added: Marriage-

1938/4365   Grace Nellie   Doak   Lytel John   Black

Minniehaha.

[Forfarian]

Very interesting!

Clearly Lyttle John Black is not the John Black I originally posted about, who was born in Sunderland in 1889, but could be a relative, perhaps.

No marriage of James Black or John Black to Rose, either in NZ or in Scotland or England. No death of a Rose Kate Black or Rose Catherine Black. No other children with mother Rose Kate, but one, William Charles, b 1900 to James Black and Rose Catherine. No remarriage of Rose Kate or Rose Catherine Black in NZ.

Only one death of a Rose Black old enough to have been the mother of Lyttle, in 1947. There's a death notice in the Otago Daily Times of 22 September 1947 of Rose, widow of John Black In the same grave with her is John Black, died 11 October 1920 aged 82, native of Ireland. So not related to me (or, if related, impossible to prove).