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James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« on: Saturday 18 January 20 14:39 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any info on James William Symonds;

birth date, 1876-09-17 (from the 1939 register)
a location, occupation from the 1939 register;
67 Anchor St, Norwich, Steel works labourer
He married Gertrude Annie Graves in 1951 (when her surname was
"Berryman", after her first husband.
and a FreeBMD death; 1956 Norwich

Whilst searching, I did find a "false twin";
James William Symonds, born 18 Dec 1869, Little Melton,
who married Eliza Ann Bullock in 1894. He also shows
in the 1939 register, so I'm certain he's not "my" guy.

I am pretty sure he was around in Norwich as early as 1912,
since two of the Berryman children are named
1912: Evelyn Ethel Laura Symonds Berryman
1917: Alice L Symonds

(yes, they obvious had a complex life...)

Anything anyone can add on J W S would be very helpful.
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WOMACK Norfolk/Suffolk

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 January 20 14:57 GMT (UK) »
I hope you can check this out, found it a bit confusing

freebmd's
Dec qtr 1876
Norwich
James W Symonds
ref shows D27
referred to Hales

So I checked on James W Hales, no mmn and against this but it shows occasional copy A

I have no idea what this means

Might not be anything to do with you but it seems strange

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:23 GMT (UK) »
There is also a James William Hales born 2nd Q 1875??? & a marriage to an Elsie Whittaker in 1924, Gt Yarmouth.

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:29 GMT (UK) »
National School Admission Registers :

James Symonds  d.o.b. 17.9.76.  admitted 20.10.80. St Peter Parmentergate National School, Norwich
Parent/Guardian : Leah Symonds , Watson's Yard

Interesting that the birthdate matches the 1939 .
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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:32 GMT (UK) »
1891 census :

 RG12; Piece: 1523; Folio: 58; Page: 20

James Symonds 31
Leah Symonds 31
James Symonds 14
Sarah Hales 68 Mother in Law
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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:33 GMT (UK) »
James Symonds on 1891 census with parents, James & Leah, Norwich

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:34 GMT (UK) »
Oh Christine, HALES, now that is interesting,

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Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:35 GMT (UK) »
James Symonds and Leah Margaret Hales 3Q1878 Norwich 4b 246
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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Baptism transcript :

James William Hales baptised 18 Jul 1875 Norwich , Norfolk

Father : Russell Hales
Mother Leah Hales

Russell may be fictitious ?

Edit : I found an image which seems to be for the same baptism but doesn't mention any father ,
It specifies private baptism and bastard ( excuse the 19th century language ). There is also a death record in 1875 for a James William Hales , aged 0 , in Norwich. So caution is required.  ???
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